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Mr. Somerville: Some of them are living. They do better 

 than the Norway, but none are as good as the Scotch pine. I 

 have some of the jack pine at home, but have never tried them 

 away from my farm. I think they are about the same as the 

 Scotch pine. 



Prof. Fernow: I was going to speak of the jack pine as a 

 native. I have not recommended the Scotch pine, because it is 

 a foreigner. 



Mr. Barrett: Would you recommend the jack pine for a 

 windbreak in this latitude? 



Prof. Pernow: I have given hardly any thought to this tree 

 in connection with windbreaks. In fact, I do not consider 

 windbreaks exactly in the realm of forestry. I think I shou Id 

 prefer a spruce, because of its lower branches. 



Judge Moyer: I would like to ask Mr. Somerville if many 

 of those spruce trees he planted on that line of railroad were 

 not black spruce? 



Mr. Somerville : I do not think we got any black spruce. 

 The dry weather was too much for the spruces generally. Of 

 course, I would not set out a Scotch pine where I could get a 

 white spruce to grow, because the white spruce will retain its 

 foliage to the ground, while the Scotch pine will shed its 

 under limbs as it grows, and you have a tree only at the top. 



Mr. Patten: Was the red pine tried in the experiment? 



Mr. Somerville: I don't think it was. 



President Underwood: Is it not true that the Austrian pine 

 generally sunburns so you cannot do anything with it? 



Mr. Harris: I do not think it has been tried enough to say that 

 is the case. I do not think it is as hardy as the Scotch pine, 

 because I have seen trees that sunburn in the winter. That is 

 to say, the frost and sun in the winter hurt them. 



Mr. Wedge: I would like to ask Prof. Fernow about the 

 variety of Scotch pine called the Riga. 



Prof. Fernow: That is simply the pine grown in Riga. It 

 is exactly the same in every other respect. 



Judge Moyer: The only spruce that is doing anything in 

 our part of the state, is the white spruce. The only pines that 

 are growing there are the Scotch pine, pinus sylvestris and 

 the dwarf mountain pine that came from the top of the Alps. 

 That pine is doing first-rate in western Minnesota. 



Mr. Smith: Out in the dry mountains of Montana, I have 

 seen the red cedar growing very thriftily. I had the privilege 

 of stopping the other night with a farmer who had a grove of 



