320 Evidence before 



cannot slate the number, but there arc a 

 great many. 



Do you know f!)c proportion of Eng- 

 lish, with llie other workmen employed 

 there? — I have been informed by the 

 proprietors, that they employ a great 

 number of En^Iislmien. 



Do they supply nil the cotton ma- 

 chines of their district? — Yes. 



Are many machines now imported? 

 —Yes; tiiere are many imported, and 

 would bo many more, but for the pro- 

 Libitory laws of Euf^land. 



From what country? — From Eng- 

 land. 



Are you able to speak to tlie difier- 

 cnce in value between the mac!;inrry 

 made ui France, and that made here? — 

 A machine made in England is cer- 

 tainly superior in certain metals; as 

 cast-iron, steel, and brass, and generally 

 better finished; but, if a Frenchman 

 has a good model of a machine, he will 

 certaiidy make it as well as any English 

 meclianic, so that you cannot distinguisii 

 the one from the other; but the great 

 difference is, that the same number of 

 Englisij workmen will turn out sixteen 

 machines in this country, wlien an equal 

 number of French workmen will not 

 turn out in France four of the same 

 description. If I were to give an order 

 in England, for fifty or sixty cotton- 

 spinning machines, and give an order ill 

 France for the same number of machines, 

 I should not be able to get ten machines 

 made in France in the lime the whole 

 sixty would be made in England. 'I'liis 

 dispatch is partly to be attributed to tlie 

 superior knowledge of the workmen, 

 but more to the great variety of tools 

 used in the English manufactories. 



You can get any quantity you please 

 from Manchester ? — Yes ; any number ; 

 the only difficulty is in their expor- 

 tation. 



Are English steam-engines much in 

 demand in France ? — Very much. 



Can you go on without them well ? — 

 Not with proper dispatch. 



Wliat is the difference in value 

 between a steam-engine of the same 

 power, made in England and made in 

 France ?-^The difference is about thirty 

 to thirty-five per cent. A steam-engine 

 of ten hor.<!es power made in England, 

 generally costs about 7001. and one iu 

 France, about 1,0001. 



Are they of equal quality? — Yes; 

 many persons like French engines as 

 well, that are made by Mr. Edwards; 

 lie is an Englishman/ and is the ma- 



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nagcr of Mr. Pcrrlcr's manufactory at 

 Ciraillot. 



Where docs he come from ? — From 

 London. I believe. Mr. Edwards is in 

 com[)etition with many steam-engine 

 manufacturers in England. The Eng- 

 lisli makers put up an engine at the 

 same price, though they have to pay the 

 extra duty and charges. 



Have you any means of knowing what 

 number of steam-engines have gone to 

 France within the lust two years? — One 

 English engineer has stated, that he had 

 sent 100 to France within the last three 

 years. 



Have you any idea how many Mr. 

 Edwards has made in that time? — Mr. 

 Efiwards h;is put up in France about 

 100, that he made in England ; and, 

 since the increase of duty, he has put up 

 200, which he has made at Chaillot. 



Arc you able to state, whether any 

 parts of the steam-engines are made in 

 England, and sent over to France, and 

 then completed there?— Yes, several 

 parts ; particularly boilers. 



Is that generally the case ? — It is very 

 often the case; the last steam-boat made 

 for the French government, for the post- 

 office at Calais, has been made by 

 Messrs. Steel and Atkins, steam-engine 

 makers at Paris ; the boiler and a certain 

 part of the engine have been made in 

 London, and the remainder of the 

 pii'ces of the engine have been made iu 

 Paris. 



Are you aware whether the screws, 

 whicli form a part of the steam-engine> 

 are made in France, or made in Eng- 

 land? — They are made in England. 



How can they send them from Eng- 

 fand ? — Tiny send them along with the 

 engine concealed ; no man would take 

 an engine, iftjjpydid not send the screws 

 with it. The complete machine must 

 be imported into France, if one is order- 

 ed complete. 



Do you know any manufacture of 

 other machinery in other parts of 

 France?— Yes, I know the manufacture 

 of rollers for calico and cotton printin;; 

 machines. 



Where are they ? — In Paris. 



For any other articles ? — They make 

 every sort of machine in Paris which is 

 made in England. 



Can you state within how many years 

 any of these manufactories have been 

 established?— They have improved and 

 increased, particularly within these three 

 or four years ; a great number of these 

 machine-makers have been established 



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