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coal is found? — It is found ncnr St. 

 Etiemie, at Liege in Btl<!,iuinjiiud some 

 other i)arts of (lie couniry. 



What is Hie quality of tiie host of 

 jour iron in France, as compared wilh 

 onr English iron ? — The French is pre- 

 ferred in France to the English iron. 



Do the machine maivcrs use English 

 or French iron? — They use hotli. 



Is English iron prohibited in France? 

 — No ; but it pays duty as under: — 

 Flat and square, from 10/. to 20/. per ton, 

 Engli>:h. 



Roimd 14/. to 20/. do. 



and. notwithstanding the superiority of 

 the French iron, it is not so well ap- 

 jiioved of as the Encrlish, not being so 

 well flattened or rounded. 



Have you ever known the workmen 

 in France, in a body, refuse to work, as 

 J on know they do in England occasion- 

 ally? — I have. 



In what business? — In the carpenter 

 business, one year ago, in Paris. 



What was their number? — Tl)cre 

 M ere about 4 or 6000. 



WMiat was the result ! — The police of 

 P;--ris arrested a number of tiieni, an<l 

 put them into prison, because they had 

 refused (o work by coraliination; some 

 were arrcstc<l by the police, for having 

 prevented the others from working. 



In point of fact, is it the practice in 

 France, if the men refuse to work, if 

 they behave quietly, and do not meddle 

 with others disposed to work, to inlcr- 

 I'ero with the men so leaving their work? 

 — No, except there is evidence of com- 

 bination. 



Ls that on a specific law? — Yes. 



Have you any opportunity of knowing 

 the number of English artizans who are 

 in France, or who have gone to France 

 in any one year? — I can only state what 

 I have been told, thut we had, in 1822 

 and 1823, about iG.OOO artizans arrived 

 from England in France, in the period 

 of those two years. 



Will you state v\ hat conversations you 

 have had with tiu-se men, and whether 

 the contracts made with them in this 

 country, to induce them to go abroad, 

 liave been kept or not ? — I believe there 

 have been no contracts made in this 

 coiMitry since 1810, to my knowledge ; 

 hut, some men having visited France in 

 that year, persuaded their associates 

 here to emigrate ; and now there is no 

 occasion for any French master to enter 

 into any contract to obtain men froin 

 JCngland. It is sullicicnt to say in a 

 I'rench ni.'inuiactory, "I want half a 

 doKcn En^li^hmcn," and, in a short 



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time, from twelve to twenty are sure to 



Did you mean that llie 16,000 were 

 in Paris, or in all Fiance? — In all 

 Fi-"-nce ; for tiicy pass throngli Paris, 

 and arc all registered there. 



In what manufactories arc the greatest 

 luiraber of these artizans? — They arc 

 spread in alniost every manulactory: 

 sneh as iron mills, foundries, woollen. 

 Cotton, calico printing, engraving, steam 

 engine and machine factories. 



Has Mr. Manby any English work- 

 men ? — Yes, he has many ; he has all 

 sorts and descriptions of men. I do 

 not know any manulactory in France 

 iii which Englishmen have not been 

 employed. 



(Jau you state how many Eiiglisiimcn 

 there are at (he works atChaillot? — I 

 believe at present (here are not more 

 (ban five or six Englishmen ; Mr- 

 Edward docs not v\ish to have English 

 workmen now, as he can manage the 

 French better. 



You staled to-day, llial some woollen 

 manufacturers said, Ibcy <ould send 

 some French manufactured woollens 

 into this country wilh an ailvantagc 

 and profit I — Yes, if there was no Eng- 

 lish duty. 



If there were a considerable import of 

 woollen manufactures into France, how 

 do you imagine France would |)ay Eng- 

 land for that woollen manufacture? — In 

 the very same line of manufacture; tliej' 

 would have a fair exchange, to the 

 advantage of both countries, by sending 

 another class of articles. 



Would not they be able to pay us iti 

 wine; sup|)nsing the duties upon FiencJi 

 wine in England were taken oflF? — I 

 believe it; and I am sure that there arc 

 many French articles that would be to 

 the advantage of England to receive 

 from France besides wine; and several 

 of our well-informed statesmen have 

 repeatedly stated, that if a free commer:- 

 cial intercourse existed between France 

 and Englanil,aiid that if England were 

 to receive all our manufactured goods, 

 and the produce of our soil, under rea- 

 sonable terms of duty, we would wilh 

 |)leasnrc admit British produce and 

 manufactured goods. 



Is it the opinion in France, that that 

 recii)rocal intercourse would take place, 

 even without any special commercial 

 treaty for that jiurposc? — It is the 

 opinion and wish among ourcomoiercial 

 nien for a free trade, except amongst the 

 cott(Ui manufacturers, weavers and 

 spinners, or other manufacturers in 

 immediate 



