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hen he moft certainly fhould again 
ubmit his ideas upon the fubject to 
ourable gentleman would con- 
to withdraw his motion, he 
fhould move to adjourn. Wir. Pitt 
leclared, that if he were forced to 
fome to a fpecific vote upon the 
ight honourable gentleman’s plan 
r amending the coattitution, he 
re his own propofition, he fhould 
“aét in the fame manner, feeling that 
the caufe of reform might fuffer dif- 
@race and lofe ground from being 
brought forward at an improper mo- 
Dn ent. 
* Sir James Johnftone contended, 
that if the propofitions of the right 
honourable gentleman were com- 
plied with, the act of union would 
be violated, and in that cafe the two 
tries muft be placed in the fame 
fuation in which they itood before 
aid be to bring them together 
ain. By the union England was 
have 313 members in that houfe, 
d Scotland 45. Ifthe act of uni- 
were diffolved, probably that 
ife would think eight members 
m Scotland enow, but the Scotch 
iliament might infift upon haviag 
60 at leait. The parliament had 
me extremely well for fome years 
Mt; he hoped, therefore, that the 
ght honourable gentleman would 
ffer them to try the experimett for 
Other century, and then, if it did 
it anfwer, he would be glad to fe- 
ad his motion. 
Mir. Pox argued ia favour of the 
tion; but, ac the fame time, can- 
ly fgid, that he believed the 
pion he fupported was not that 
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the houfe ; at prefent, unlefs the right 
1 be againit it; and even if it - 
© union, and then the difficulty - 
[sr 
ofthe majority either within or with- 
out the doors of parliament... He dif= 
fered from Mr. Wyndham .on the 
point of the American war, and was 
of opinion, that had the honfe cf 
commons been differently conititut- 
ed at that time, it would have put an 
end to that war much earlier. Sure 
alfo he was, that what had happened 
in 1784, would never, in that cafe, 
have taken place. He differed to- 
tally from Mr. Wyndham in the fen- 
timents, he had expreffed relative to 
France. That gentleman had afk- 
ed, would any man repair his houfe 
in the hurricane? Mr. Fox faid, he 
would be glad to know what feafon 
was more proper to fet about a re- 
pair in, than when an hurricane was 
near, and might poflibly burft forth? 
He concluded with declaring, that 
he thought the reform propofed by 
Mr. Flood the beft of all he had yet 
heard fuggefted. i 
Mr. Burke combated the various 
arguments that had been urged in 
favour of the motion: He particu- 
larly contended, that the people did 
-not with for any reform, and that 
fuch attempts did not originate with, 
or were countenanced bythem. He 
contended, that the American war 
was a war of the people, and that it 
was put an end to by the virtue of 
the houfe of commons, with ftarce 
any interfereace of the people, and 
almeft without their confent. 
Mr. Powis, Mr. Wilberforce, and 
Mr, Secretary Grenville, fpoke on 
the fame fide; and Mr. Courtney, 
Sir jofepbh Mawbey, Mr. Martin, 
Mr. Duncombe, and others, for the 
motion, At length.Mr. Flood a-' 
greed that it fhould be withdrawa, 
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