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the rights and the splendors of 

 the Romish church. You em- 

 ployed Irish men and Irish money 

 in these expeditions : and will you 

 now disqualify the Irish for pope- 

 ry? France out of the question, 

 there is not a Catiiolic on the globe 

 whom you Iiave not embraced, 

 except your fellow subjects. To 

 that embrace I now recommend 

 you." 



Mr. Grattan's motion for a com- 

 mittee to consider the Roman Ca- 

 tholic petitions, was seconded by 

 sir John Hippesley, in a long 

 speech, in which he supported 

 the positions of Mr. Grattan, by 

 details of facts and circumstances.* 

 By the time sir John Hippesley 

 had finished his speech, it was a 

 very late hour ; and Mr. O'Hara 

 moved an adjournment. It was 

 agreed, after a short conversation, 

 to resume the debate on Thursday 

 next. — It was resumed May the 

 25th. In the course of this night's 

 long debate, lord Castlereagh took 

 notice of circumstances that had 

 occurred since the question was 

 last under consideration, which 

 called for the most serious atten- 

 tion. He regretted to find that 

 increased obstacles to the further 

 extension of political indulgence 

 to the Catholics had arisen out of 

 their own conduct and declara- 

 tions. He had never considered 

 that the pretensions of the Catho- 

 lics to fuither indulgence rested 

 upon a claim of right. — The dis- 

 ingenuous, shuffling, and incon- 

 sistent conduct of Dr. Milner, a 

 titular Roman Catholic bishop, 

 and the accredited agent of the 

 Irish Roman Catholics in this 



country, was animadverted on, 

 with just severity, by speakers on 

 both sides of the question. 



Mr. Whitbread said, " I must 

 not forget Dr. Milner, who, if he 

 had been created for the purpose 

 of sowing dissention among the 

 Catholics themselves, and un- 

 founded distrust of their friends, 

 could not have succeeded better 

 than he has done. I think even 

 the chancellor of the Exchequer 

 must have been pleased with the 

 honest triumph of my right hon, 

 friend (Mr. Ponsonby) over that 

 reverend divine." The debate 

 was adjourned to Friday, the 1st 

 of June. 



Mr. Bernard, though extremely 

 desirous of conciliating the afl'ec- 

 tions of his Catholic countrymen, 

 when he considered the late reso- 

 lutions of the general Catholic 

 committee in Ireland, refusing to 

 give to the government any con- 

 trol whatever over the appoint- 

 ment of the Catholic bishops, — 

 could never, for one, consent to 

 give the Catholics a share in le- 

 gislation or power, so long'as they 

 adhered to that principle. 



Otherspeakers expressed similar 

 sentiments. The debate had been 

 protracted to a very late hour, 

 when, on a division of the House, 

 there appeared for Mr. Grattan's 

 motion, 109. Against it, 213. 



A motion to the same effect, 

 and with no better success, was 

 made, June 6, in the House of 

 Lords, by the earl of Donough- 

 raore. It was introduced by a 

 speech of considerable length, as 

 well as ability and eloquence. 

 — " Cease," said his lordship, 



* This speech, authenticated by the author, was published by Mr. Faulder, 

 Bond-street. 



