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ordinary powers. He therefore 
moved as an amendmentthe omis~ 
sion of the latter clause of Mr. 
Tierney’s motion. : 
The remainder of the debate, 
in which several members on 
each side took a part, turned upon 
the propriety of giving these 
powers to a committee; they who 
supported the original motion 
contending, that without them the 
committee would prove as ineffec- 
tual as all others had been ; while 
the opposers spoke of such an 
inquisition as indelicate and dis- 
respectful to the crown, and en- 
deavoured to lighten some of the 
charges which had been brought 
of extravaganceinthe expenditure. 
That however astrong impression 
had been made by the statements 
produced, was manifest on the 
division, when the amendment of 
the chancellor of the Exchequer 
was carried by no greater majority 
than 127 to. 94, 
Mr. Tierney determined upon 
making another effort for the 
same purpose A select com- 
mittee having been appointed for 
examining into the state of the 
civil list, he rose, on May the Sth, 
inorder to make a motion on the 
subject. He said, that he had 
made twosuggestions to the com- 
mittee; 1, that the great object 
ought to be to examine in what 
way the enormous expenditure of 
the civil list had been superin- 
tended; 2; that the committee 
ought to give to the House some 
detailed estimates, in order to 
ascertain what reasonable bounds 
ought tobe put to the expenditure 
for the royal family. To the first 
of these, the committee had fully 
consented : with the lastthey only 
compliedin part, being of opinion, 
ANNUAL REGISTER. 1815. 
that such conduct would be inde« 
corous in the committee; but they 
recommended that a motion for 
the purpose should be made in 
the House. . The right hon. gen- 
tleman then entered into a state 
ment of particulars of the accounts 
in the lord chamberlain’s depart- 
ment, in order to shew the vast 
and growing increase of expen- 
diture, which made a particular 
inquiry necessary ; and he con- 
cluded with moving, That the 
select committee appointedtotake 
into consideration the account pre- 
sented to the House‘on the 20th 
of last March by command of the 
Prince Regent, have power to 
send for Mr. T. B. Mash, of the 
lord Chamberlain’s office. 
Lord Castlereagh first spoke in 
reply, and endeavoured to shew, 
that there was no necessity to 
deviate from ‘ the respectful 
course which had always been 
adopted towards the crown.” For 
this purpose he gave explanations 
of various articles which had been 
adduced by the mover. 
Mr. Rose confessed that in all 
former applicationsrespecting the 
civil list, the accounts had been 
furnished in such a way as to 
throw no light whatever on the 
subject; but hesaid that atpresent 
such minute details had beengiven, 
that every one might judge of its 
state without examining witnesses; 
viva voce. 
After several other members 
had spoken, and Mr. Tierney had 
made his answer, the House di- 
vided, when the motion was ne- 
gatived by 175 against 119; the 
minority being not only consider- 
able in number, but highly re- 
spectable in weight and character. 
The report of the select come 
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