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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[No. 35. 



is a letter from Lord Byron, dated "Beauvois, 

 March 1-11, 1650," to the Marquis of Ormond, 

 statini? that Lord Goring the son has come to 

 Beauvois, and is on his way to Spain, about the 

 settlement of a pension which had been promised 

 iiim there, and also to endeavour to get arms and 

 money for the King's service in L'eland ; and that, , 

 havinn- settled his business in Spain, he desires ] 

 nothiiT"- better than to serve as a volunteer under 

 Ormond for King Charles. Lord Byron strongly 

 recommends Ormond to avail himself of Goring s 

 services : — 



" I am confident my Lord Goring may be serviceable 

 to your Excellence in many respects, and therefore have 

 rather encouraged him in this his resolution, than any 

 ways dehorted him from it ; and especially because he 

 is to pass by the Spanish Court, where he hath such 

 habitudes, by reason of the service both his father 

 and he hath done that crown." 



In an intercepted letter of a parliament.arian, 

 dated Jan. 8, 1649, which is in Carte's Letters 

 (vol. i. p. 201.), is the following mention ot the 

 Eari of Norwich, then under sentence of death by 

 the High Court of Justice : — 



" Ou° great minds sav, Thursday the King shall 

 die, and two or three great Lords with him, Capel and 

 Loughborough being two of them. Gormg hath 

 gotten Ireton to friend, who e.\.cuses him yet." 



Sir E. Nicholas writes, AittU 8, 1649, to the 

 Marquis of Ormond, that the Earl of Norwich (as 

 he stvles him) has been reprieved at the suit ot the 

 Spanish and Dutch ambassadors. (Carte's Letters, 



Tol.i. p. 247.) , • .1 V 



In the following passage of a speech, \n the dis- 

 cussions about tiie House of Lords in Richard 

 Cromwell's Parliament, there is no doubt that the 

 Earl of Norwich is referred to as Lor.l Gorm^ : 

 and I should infer that George Lord Goring the 

 son was then dead, as he had unquestionably done 

 more than enough to forfeit his privileges in the 

 view of Commonwealth men : — 



>' What hath the son of Lord Goring or Lord Capel 

 done to forfeit their right?"— (Burton's Diary, m. 4L'l. 

 Feb. 22. 1659.) 



Geor-re Lord Goring the son is referred to in 

 another^peech preserved in Burton's Difiry, and is 

 there called " young Lord Goring.' (ui. 206.) ^^ 



Pepvs mentions the return of " Lord Goring 

 from France, April 11, 1660 (vol. i. p. 54.). 

 Lord Braybrooke's note savs that this was "Charles, 

 Avho succeeded his father as second Earl of Nor- 

 wich." Is it certain that this was not the old Larl 

 of Norwich himself? „ , ^ ^^ •-•.,, 



The death of the old Earl of Norwich is thus 



chronicled in Peck's Desiderata Curiosa, p. 542. : — 



"Jan. 6. 1662-3, died Lord Goring on his passage 



by land from Hampton Court to London, at Brainford, 



about eighty years of age : he was Eail of Norwich." 



CH. 



MS3. OF BISHOP KIDLEY : A "nOTe" AND A 



"query." 

 A "Note" in the Original Letters relative to the 

 English Reformation, published by the Parker So- 

 ciety, p. 91., mentions the existence of an import- 

 ant MS. treatise by Bishop Ridley, which had been 

 unknown when the works of that prelate were 

 collected and published by the Parker Society in 

 1841. It seems to be desirable that the fact should 

 be placed on record in your most useful publica- 

 tion : the " Note " is as follows : — 



" A copy of Bishop Ridley's ' Conference by writing 

 with M. Hoper, exhibited up to the council in the time 

 of King Edward the Sixth,' was in the possession of 

 Archbishop Whitgift : see his Defence of the Answer to 

 the Admonition, a.d. 1574, p. 25. But its existence 

 was unknown (see Ridley's Life of Bishop Ridley, 

 Lond. 1763, p. .S15.) in later years, till a copy, slightly 

 imperfect, was discovered in 1844, in the extensive 

 collection of MSS. belongmg to Sir Thomas Phillips, 

 Bart." 



There is another MS. treatise by Bishop Ridley, 

 that has been missing for nearly three centuries, 

 respecting which I should be glad to offer a 

 " Query :" I allude to Ridley's Treatise oh Elec- 

 1 tiou and Predestination. The evidence that such 

 a piece ever existed is, that Ridley, in answer both 

 to a communication from prison, signed by Bishop 

 FeiTar, Rowland Taylor, John Bradford, and 

 Archdeacon Philpot, and probably to other letters 

 from Bradford, wrote, — 



" Where you say that, if your request had been 

 heard, things, you think, had been in better case than 

 they be, know you that, concerning the matter you 

 mean, I have in Latin drawn out the places of the 

 Scriptures, and upon the same iiave noted what I can 

 for the time. Sir, in those matters I am so fearful, 

 that I dare not s])eak further, yea, almost none other- 

 wise, than the very text doth, as it were, lead me by 

 the hand." — Works of Bishop Ridley, Parker Soc, 

 p. 368. 



And to this statement Bishop Coverdale, in the 

 Letters of the Martyrs, Day, 1564, p. 65., caused 

 the following side-note to be printed : — 



" He meaneth here the matter of God's election, 

 whereof he afterward wrote a godly and comfortable 

 treatise, remaining yet in the hands of some, and here- 

 after shall come to light, if God so will." 



Glocester Ridley, in his Life of Bishop Ridletj, 

 1763, p. 554., states: — 



" I never heard that it was published, nor have I 

 been able to meet with it in MS. The great learning 

 and cool judgment of this prelate, and the entire sul)- 

 jection of his imagination to tlie revealed will of God, 

 make the loss of this treatise much to be lamented." 



Could any of your correspondents offer any sug- 

 gestion, or supply any information, which might 

 throw light on the subject, or might give a clue 

 to the lost manusca-ipt? The treatise referred to 



