Sept. 28. 1850.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



283 



" Veneta," but always in the past tense ; as, " quon- 

 dam fuit nobilissiniacivilas," &c. ; so that it is plain 

 from that and his expression "excidiuin civitatis;" 

 as well as, "Hanc civitateiu opulentissimam quidam 

 Danorum rex, maxima classe stipatus, fumletus 

 evertisse refertur." The great question is. Where 

 was this great city ? and, are the Jidin of Adam 

 and the Veneta of Helmold identical? Both ques- 

 tions have given rise to endless discussions amongst 

 German archsologists. The published maps, as 

 late at least as the end of the last century, had a 

 note at a place in the Baltic, opposite to the small 

 town of Demmin, in Pomerania : — "Hie Veneta 

 emporium olim celeberr. aequar. a?stu absorpt." 

 ilany, pei'haps the majority, of recent writers con- 

 tend for the town of Wallin, which gives its name 

 to one of the islands by which tiie Stettin Haff is 

 formed, — though the slight verbal conformity 

 seems to be their principal ground; jforno rudera, 

 no vestiges of ancient grandeur now mark the spot, 

 not even a tradition of former greatness : whilst 

 Veneta, which can only be taken to mean the 

 civitas of the Veneti, a nation placed by Tacitus 

 on this part of the coast, has a long unbroken chain 

 of oral evidence in its favour, as close to Eugen ; 

 and, if authentic records are to be credited, ships 

 have been wrecked in the last century on ancient 

 moles or bulwarks, which then rose nearly to the 

 surface from the submerged ruins. But the sub- 

 ject is much too comprehensive for the compressed 

 notices of your miscellany. I hope to have shortly 

 an op{>ortanity of treating the subject at large in 

 reference to the Scliiringsheal which Othere de- 

 scribed to King Alfred, about two hundred years 

 earlier. 



An edition of Adam and Helmold is very desir- 

 able in England, even in a translation, as a part of 

 Boha's Antiquarian Series. 



WtLLiAM Bell, Ph. D. 



Besx ofHurdii-ick (Vol. i., p. 276.). — The fol- 

 lowing particulars in answer to this Query will, 

 I hope, elicit some further information from other 

 quarters. I have, in my answer, attempted to be 

 as brief as j)03sible. 



John, the fifth recorded Hardwick, of Hard- 

 wick, left issue, by Elizabeth Leake, si.\^ children: 

 of whom Ja.mes (or John) was thrice married, 

 and died nine prole, and Dorothy died an infant : 

 the four remaining daughters became colieiresses. 



Of tiiese Maky Hahdwick married (his first 

 wife) llichard Wingfii'ld, of AV'antisden, seventh 

 son of Sir Anliiony W^ingfield, of Letheringham, 

 CO. SulFolk, K. G. His will wiis proved in 

 London 14tii August, 1.59L Their eldest son 

 llcnrji was of Crowfieid, co. SuflTolk. His great- 



i^randson, Ilarhotlle Wingjield, of Crowfieid, was 

 iving 1G44, and his descendants, if any, may 



quarter Hardwick. Their second son, Anthony 

 Wingjield, was the well-known Greek reader to 

 Queen Elizabeth ; and their third son. Sir John 

 Wingjield, married Susan Bertie, Countess Dow- 

 ager of Kent, and left Peregrin Wingjield, of 

 whom nothing is recorded. 



Jase Hardwick, next daughter, married God- 

 frey Bosvile of Gunthwaite and Beighton, co. Ebor. 

 His will is dated 22nd July, 1580. Their eldest 

 child, Francis Bosvile, left only a daughter, Grace 

 Bosvile, who died young. His three sisters became 

 coheirs, but the estate of Gunthwaite went to an 

 uncle, ancestor of the present Godfrey Bosvile, 

 Lord Macdonald. Of these sisters, Frances Bosvile 

 married John Savile ; Dorothy Bosvile, John 

 Lacy ; and Elizabeth Bosvile, John Copley : 

 eitiier the}' had no children, or these died young. 

 Mary Bosvile, the second daughter and coheir, 

 married Richard Burdett, of Derby, living 1612. 

 Their son, George Burdett, had by his first wife a 

 son, whose issue failed ; and by his second wife 

 two daughters, eventually coheirs. 



Of these, Mary Burdett married, first, llichard 

 Pilkington, and second. Sir T. Beaumont, of 

 Whitby : and another sister married — Ramsden. 

 No issue of either are recorded. The third sister, 

 Elizabeth Burdett, married, at Hoyland, 6th Feb., 

 1636, the Pvev. Daniel Clark, A.M., and died 27th 

 Aug., 1679, at Fenney-Compton. Their great- 

 grandson and sole male representative was the 

 late Joseph Clark, of Northampton, whose de- 

 scendants also quarter Hardwick. 



Elizabeth Hardwick, the next daughter, was 

 the celebrated Countess of Shrewsbury. Her 

 representatives are all noble, and their pedigrees 

 may be found in the Peerages. They are — 



1. The Duke oj Devonshire, representing Wm. 

 Cavendish, first earl. 



Certain descendants 'of Sir Charles Cavendish, 

 of Welbeck Abbey, or rather of his grandson, 

 Henry, second Duke of Newcastle, namely, 



2. Tiie Duke of Portland, representing Mar- 

 garet Pelliam, the Duke's eldest coheir; 



:i. Tiie Marcpds oj Salisbury from Catherine, 

 and second coheir ; 



4. Tlie Ea7-l De la Warr ; and 



3. The Ea>-1 of Abnyne, are the coheirs of Sir 

 Charles Cope, Baronet, of Orton ; who repre- 

 sented Arabella, Countess of Sunderland, third 

 coheir. These five all quarter Hardwick. 



Alice Hardwick, next daughter, married 

 Francis Hercy, according to some pedigrees. 

 No issue recorded. 



There are therefore descendants certainly 

 known of only two of the children of John Hard- 

 wick. Possibly some of your correspondents can 

 supply those of Wingfield and Hercy. 



Tlie crest and arms of the Hardwicks may be 

 found in Edmondson. They only quartered 

 Pynchbeke. I am not aware of any motto. 



