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NOTES AND QUEKIES. 



[No. 59. 



between Ingelram and Waleran ? And how is 

 Waleran's double appellation to be explained ? 

 I see a reference to a family named de Mounceaiix 

 in the last number of the Archaological Journal, 

 p. 300., holding a manor near liawbridge, Somer- 

 set. Were they of the same stoclc ? 



3. The magnificent monument in Ilerstmonceux 

 church to Thomas Lord Dacre (who died 1534), 

 and his eldest son, is embellished with a consider- 

 able number of coats of arms, several of which I 

 am unable to identify with any connexions of tlie 

 family. These are, — (1.) Sable, a cross or ; ('2.) 

 Barry of six, ar. and az., a bend gules ; (3.) Arg. 

 a fesse gules ; (4.) Quarterly or, and gules, an 

 escarbuncle sable ; (5.) Barry of six, arg. and gules; 

 (6.) Azure, an orle of martlets or, on an incscut- 

 cheon arg. three bass gules. 



Can any of your readers, acquainted with the 

 Dacre and Fienes pedigrees, appropriate any of 

 these coats ? 



4. A suite of small bed-rooms, and the gallery 

 from which they opened, in Ilerstmonceux Castle, 

 were called respectively the JBdldem Chambers 

 and Betldem Gallery : is any instance of a simihu' 

 denomination of apartments known, and can the 

 reason be assigned ? 



5. Sir Roger Fienes, the builder of Herstmon- 

 ceux Castle, accompanied Henry V. to Agincourt. 

 Are any references to him to be found in Sir II. 

 Nicolas' Battle of Azincourt, or elsewhere? 



6. Francis Lord Dacre was one of the noble 

 twelve who had the courage to appear in their 

 places in the House of Lords and reject the ordi- 

 nance for the trial of Charles I. His son Thomas, 

 who married the daughter of Charles II. by the 

 Duchess of Cleveland, and was created Earl of 

 Sussex, was compelled through his extravagance 

 to alienate the castle and manor of Ilerstmonceux. 

 Are there any references to either of these peers, 

 who played a not inconspicuous part in the events 

 of their times, in any of the contemporary memoirs ? 

 Any information on any of the above points would 

 greatly oblige E. V. 



Ilerstmonceux, Nov, ^8. 



fHtn0r caucrtcS. 



Torhslure Ballads. — Any of your readers would 

 confer a great favour by referring me to any early 

 Yorkshire ballads, or balhids relating to places in 

 Yorkshire, not reprinted in the ordinary collec- 

 tions, such as Percy, Evans, &c. I am of course 

 acquainted with those in the Roxburghe collection. 



H. 



Ringing a Handbell before a Corpse. — Is it 

 true that whenever an interment takes place in 

 Christ Church Cathedral, Oxford, the corpse is 

 preceded on its way to the grave by a person who 



rings a small handbell at intervals, each time 

 giving a few tinkling strokes ? IMy informant on 

 this subject was an Oxford undergraduate, who 

 said that he had recently witnessed the bm-ials 



both of Mr. , a late student of Christ Cluirch, 



and of Miss , a daughter of a living bishop : 



and he assured me that in both cases this ceremony 

 was observed. Certainly it is possible to go 

 through the academical course at Oxford without 

 either liearing the bell, or knowing of its use on such 

 occasions : butlsliould now be glad to receive some 

 explanation of this singular custom. A. G. 



Ecclesfield. 



Church of St. Saviour, Canterbury . — Tradition, 

 I believe, has uniformly represented that an edifice 

 more ancient, but \ipon the present site of St. 

 Martin's, Cauterliury, was used by St. Augustine 

 and his followers in the earliest age of Christianity 

 in this country. St. Martin's has, on that account, 

 been often spoken of as the mother-church of 

 England. Lately, however, in perusing the fourth 

 volume of Mr. Kcmble's Codex Diplomuticus, p. 1., 

 I find a charter of King Canute, of the year 1018, 

 which states the church of St. Saviour, Canter- 

 hwy, to be the mother-church of England : 



" ^cck'sia Salvatoris in Dorobernia sita, omnium 

 iEcclesiarum regni Aiigligeni mater et domina." 



In none of the histories of Kent or of Canter- 

 bury can I find any mention of a church dedicated 

 to St. Saviour. May I beg the favour of you to 

 insert this among your Notes ? Henry Ellis. 



Mock Beggars Hall. — What is the origin of 

 this name as applied to some old mansions? One 

 at Wallasey, in Cheshire, was so named, and another 

 near Ipswich, in Sutrolk. And what is the earliest 

 instance of the title? Buriessis. 



Beatrix Lady Talbot. — Since the publication 

 of Sir Harris Nicolas' able contribution to the 

 Collectanea Topographica et Geneahgica (vol. i. 

 pp. 80-90.) no one may be excused for confound- 

 ing, as Dugdale and his followers had done, 

 Beatrix Lady Talbot with Donna Beatrix, 

 daughter of John, King of Portugal, to whom 

 Thomas FitzAlan, Earl of Arundel, was married, 

 26th Nov., 1405. What I now wisli to learn is, 

 whether anything has since been discovered to 

 elucidate further the pedigree of Lady Talbot ? 

 It is evident that she was of Portuguese origin ; 

 and it may be inferred from the quarterings on 

 her seal, as shown in a manuscript in the British 

 Museum (1st and 4th ai-g., five escutcheons in 

 cross az., each charged with five plates in saltire, 

 for Portugal; and 2nd and 3rd az., five crescents 

 in saltire, or), that she was a member of the Por- 

 tuguese family of Pinto, which is the only house 

 in Portugal that bears the five crescents in saltire, 

 as displayed on the seal. Scotus. 



