Mae. 22. 1851.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



225 



Conference betweene a certaine B. (as he stilts hiin) and 

 himselfe. The conference was very private till Mr. 

 Fisher spread certaine papers of it, wliich in many 

 respects deserved an Answere. Which is here given by 

 R. B., Chapleine to the B. that was employed in the 

 conference." 



Pray, who icas tlie cliaplaiii ? I have lieard be 

 was tlie after- (anions Arelibi.~hop Laud. 



I praj your assistance in the resolution of this 

 Query. J. M. 



Liverpool. 



[This famous conference was the third held by divines 

 of the Cimrch of England with the Jesuit Fisher (or 

 Perse, as Ids name really was: see Uodd's Church His- 

 tory, vol. \n. p. 394. ). Til e first two were conducted 

 by Dr. Francis White : the latter by Bishop Laud, was 

 held in May, 1622, and the account of it publislied by 

 R B. (j. e. Dr. Richard Baylie, who married Laud's 

 niece, and was at that time his chaplain, and afterwards 

 president of St. John's College, Oxford). Should 

 J. M. possess a cojjy printed in 1620, it would be a 

 literary curiosity. Laud says himself, that " his Dis- 

 cimrse was not printed till April, 1G24."] 



Drink up Eisell (Vol. iii., p. 119.). — Here is a 

 passage in Troiius and Cressida, in which drink up 

 occurs (Act IV. Sc. 1.): 



" He, like a puling cuckold, would drink tip 

 The lees and 'Irvc/s of a flat-tamed piece." 

 The meaning is plainly here avaler, not boire. 

 Here is another, which does not perhaps illus- 

 trate the passage in Hamlet, but resembles it 

 (Act III. Sc. 2.) : 



" When we vow to weep seas, live in fire, eat rocks, 

 tamo tigers, thinking it harder for our mistress to de- 

 vise imposition enough, than for us to undergo any 

 difficultv imposed." 



C.B. 



[We are warned by several correspondents that this 

 subject is becominif as bitter as wormwood to them. 

 Before we dismis's it, however, we must record in our 

 pa^es the opinion of one of the most distinguished 

 commentators of the day, Mr. Hunter, who in his 

 New Liustrutinns, vol. ii. p 263., after quoting "po- 

 tions of eysell " from the sonnet, says, " I'his shows it 

 was not any river so called, but some desperate drink. 

 The word occurs often in a sense in which acetnvi is 

 the best representative, associated with verjuice and 

 vinegar. It is the term used for one ingredient of the 

 bitter potion j^iven to our Saviour on the cross, about 

 the composition ol which the eonimcntators are greatly 

 divided. Tluis the eighth prayer of the Fifteen Oos 

 in the Salishury Primer, I, 55j, begins thus: 'O Blessed 

 Jesii, sweitncss of heart and ghostly jileasiire of souls, 

 I beseech thee for the bitterness of the ai/sell and gall 

 that tliou tasted and suflL-red for me in thy passion,' 

 &c." 



.Since the above was written, we have received a 

 commnnieation from /In I'lmjlish Molhir \\\\.\\ the words 

 and iHu»ic of the nursery song, showing thai the music 

 does not admit the expressions "eat up," and "drink 



up ;" quoting from Haldorson's Icelandic Lexicon, 

 Eysill, m. Haiistru;ii en Ose allsa; and asking what 

 if Shakspeare meant either a pump or a bucket ? We 

 have also received a Note fiom G. F. G. showing that 

 eisel in Dutch, German, and Anglo-Saxon, &c., meant 

 I vinegiir, and stating, that during his residence in Flo- 

 rence in 1817, 1818, and 1819, he had often met with 

 wormivood wine at the table of the Italians, a weak 

 white wine of 'J'uscany, in which wormwood had been 

 infused, which was handed round by the servants im- 

 inediately after the soup, and was believed to promote 

 digestion.] 



Saxon Coin struck at Dfhy. — In the reign of 

 Athelstan there was a royal mint at Derby, and a 

 coinage was struck, having on the obverse merely 

 the name of the town, Deoraby, and on the other 

 side the legend " hegenredes mo . on . deoeaby." 

 What is the meaning of this inscription ? 



II. c. p. 



Derby, Feb. 26. 1851. 



[If HEGENREDEs IS rightly written, it is the name of 

 a moneyer. mo . on . deorabv signifies Monetarius 

 (or Moneyer) in Derby. Coins are known with 

 MEGENFKEi' and JIEGNEREDTES, and our correspondent 

 may have read his coin wrongly.] 



ileiJlie^. 



SCANDAL AGAINST QUEEN ELIZABETH. 



(Vol. ii., p. 39.3.; Vol. ill., pp. 11. 151. 197.) 



The Marquis or Ormonde having been in- 

 formed that certain statements, little compli- 

 mentary to the reputation of Queen Elizabeth, 

 and equally discieuitable to the name of his 

 ancestor, -Thomas, Earl of Ormonde, have ap- 

 peared in " Notes and Queried," wherein it is 

 stated " that the Ormonde family possess docu- 

 ments wliich aflbrd proof of this," begs to assure 

 the editcjr of the journal in question, that the 

 Ormonde collection of papers, &c. contains nothing 

 that bears the slightest reference to the very 

 calumnious attack on the character of good Queen 

 Bess. 



Hampton Court, March 17. 1851. 



[If the Marquis of Ormonde will do us the favour 

 to refer to our Nu uber for the 8th March (No. 71.), 

 he will find he has not been correctly informed with 

 respect to the article to which his note i elates. The 

 family in which the papers are stated to exist, is clearly 

 not that of the noble Marquis, but the family with 

 which our correspondent " J. Bs."' slates himself to be 

 '■ connected ;" and we hope J. Bs. will, in justice both 

 to himself and to Queen Llizabeth, adopt the course 

 suggested in the following communication. We be- 

 lieve the warmest admirers of th:U great (^ocen cannot 

 better vindicate her character than by making a strict 

 iiKjuuy into the grounds for the scandals, which, as 

 has been already shown {anli. No. 6'J. p. 11.), were 

 so industriously circulated against her.] 



