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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[No. 74. 



there were few ladies of the last century better 

 known than Catherine, daughter of James II. (to 

 whom he gave the name of Davnlej') by iliss 

 Ledley, created Countess of Dorchester. Lady 

 Catherine Darnley was married first to Lord Angle- 

 sey, and secondly to Slieffield Duke of Bucking- 

 ham, by whom she was mother of the second duke of 

 that name, who died in his minority, and the title 

 became extinct. All this, and many more curious 

 jiarticulars of that extraordinary lady, may be 

 found in the Peerages, in Pope, in Walpolcs Be- 

 miniscences, and in Park's edition of the Noble 

 Authors. C. 



" Go the wJiole Hog" (Vol. iii., p. 224).— We 

 learn from Men and Planners in America, vol. i. 

 pp. 18, 19., that going the ivhole hog is the Ame- 

 rican popidar phrase for radical reform, or demo- 

 cratical jiriniMple, and that it is derived from the 

 phrase used Ijy butchers in Virginia, who ask their 

 customer whether he will go the whole hog, ordeal 

 only for joints or portions of it. C. B. 



Lord Baxleys Descent from Cromwell (Vol. iii., 

 p. 183.). — In answer to Pursuivant's Query, 

 How were the families of Morse and Ireton con- 

 nected ? it appears that Jane, only child of 

 liichiird Lloyd (of Norfolk ?), Esq , by Jane, 

 second daughter of Ireton, married, circa 1700, 

 Nichoh^s or Henry IMorse. But what appears to 

 me most likely to liave occasioned the report of 

 Lord Bexley's connexion with the Cromwell 

 family is, tliat the late Oliver Cromwell, Esq., of 

 Clieslumt, married Miss IMary Morse in 1771, 

 which must liave been not far from the pericxl 

 when Lord Bexley's mother, also a Miss Morse, 

 was married to Mr. Vansittart. Waylen. 



Morse and L-eton Families. — I have a small 

 original pen-trait of General Ireton by old Stone; 

 on the back of it is a card, on which is tlie follow- 

 ing : — 



" Bequeatlied by .Tane J\Iorse to her daughter Ann 

 Roberts, this picture of ber grandfather Ireton. Will 

 dated Jan. 1.5. 17:^2-33." 



" Anne Roberts, wife of Gaylard Roberts, brother 

 of Christ' Uobcrts, father of J. R." 



In Noble's Memoirs of the Cromwell Family, 

 vol. ii. p. 302., the name is printed Moore, evi- 

 dently a mistake for Morse : — 



"Jane, third daughter of General Ireton, having 

 marriei! Richard Lloyd, Esq., the issue of this mar- 

 riage was Jane, an only child, who married Nicholas, 

 or Henry Moore [Morse], Esq., by whom she bad fcur 

 sons and three daughters." 



Spes. 



The Countess of Desmond (Vol. ii., pp. 153. 186. 

 219. 317.). — Touching this venerable lady, the 

 following "Note" may not be unacceptable. 



In the year 1829, when making a tour in 

 Ireland, I saw an engraving at Lansdowne Lodge, 

 in the county of Kerry, the residence of JNIr. 



Hickson, on which the following record was 

 inscribed : — 



" Catherine Fitzgerald, Countess of Djsinond (from 

 the original in the possession of the Knight of Kerry 

 on Panell). 



" She was born in 1464 ; married in t!ie reign of 

 Edw. IV.; lived during the reigns of Edw, V., 

 Rich. III., Hen. VIL, Hen. VIII., Edw. VI., Mary, 

 and Elizabetli ; and died in the latter end o^ James' or 

 the beginning of Charles l.'s reign, at the great age 

 of 16'2 years." 



On my return home I was much surprised and 

 gratified to find in my own house, framed and 

 glazed, a very clever small-sized pr)rtrait in 

 ci'ayon, which at once struck me as a fac-simile 

 (or nearly so) of the engraving I had seen at 

 Lansdowne Lodge. 



Your correspondent C. in p. 2! 9. appears very 

 sceptical about this female JMethuselah ! and 

 speaks of a reputed portrait at Windsor " as a 

 gross imposition, being really that of an old 

 man" — 



" Non nostrum tantus componere lites : " 



but I would remind your correspondent C. that 

 such longevity is not impossible, and the tradi- 

 tions of the Countess of Desmond are widely 

 dilfused. The portrait in my ])ossession is not 

 unlike an old man; but ohl ladies, like old hen 

 pheasants, are apt to put on the semblance of the 

 male. A Borderer. 



Aristophanes on the Modern Stage (Vol. iii., 

 p. 105.). — In reply to a Query of your cor- 

 respondent C. J. K., I beg leave to state, that, 

 after having made inquiry on the subject, I can- 

 not find that any of the Comedies of Aristophanes 

 have ever been introduced upon the English stage, 

 although I agree witli him in thinking that some 

 of tliem might be advantageously adapted to the 

 modern theatre; and I am more confirmed in tliis 

 0|3iuion from having witnessed at the Odcon in 

 Paris, some years since, a dramatic piece, entitled 

 "Les Nuees d'Aristophane," which had a great 

 run there. It was not a literal translation from 

 the Greek author, but a kind of melange, drawn 

 from the Clouds and Plntus together. The cha- 

 racters of Socrates and his equestrian son were 

 very well performed ; but the scenic accessories I 

 considered very meagre, i>articularly the choral 

 part, which must have been so striking and beau- 

 tiful in the original of tlie former drama. Upon 

 my return to England I wrote to tlie then lessee 

 of Drury Lane Theatre, recommending a similar 

 experiment on our stage from the free version by 

 Wheelwright, published some time before by the 

 late D. A. Talboys, of 0.\lbrd. The answer I 

 received was, that the manager had then too 

 much on his hands to admit of his giving time to 

 such an undertaking, which I still think might be 

 a successful one (as is the case with the "Antigone" 



