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products, and do not know where to look for it?” “I have cer- 
tainly heard so. When I was in Scotland at Dunkeld and Blair 
Athole, I remarked the forests there ; I daresay you remember Mr 
John M‘Gregor, the forester who was on the jury at the Edinburgh 
Forestry Exhibition ; I went round with him, and know that he 
has a difficulty in finding men suitable for his work.” 
‘“‘ Do you know that there is considerable difficulty in disposing 
of English bark at present?” “I do not know that.”—“ Have 
you heard any complaints from the proprietors of large woodlands 
that they find it very difficult to dispose of their bark, and that 
they do not know what is the matter with it?” “I am not 
aware of that.”—“ A proprietor who owns a large property in this 
country, and also in Ireland, complained to me that he could not 
sell his bark now to the same advantage as formerly, and he did 
not know very well where to get advice about it, or what was 
wrong about it ; you would not doubt that a scientific and prac- 
tical forester would be well able to settle a question like that, and 
that it would be very important to the proprietors of woods that 
there should be some authority in the country to whom one should 
be able to refer questions of that sort?” ‘I should think that 
there must be people in this country who would know the reason 
why the bark did not fetch a fair price.”—‘“ Would you not think 
it desirable that there should be a supply of persons skilled in 
forestry who should be able to decide upon a question of that 
sort?” ‘ Certainly.”—‘‘ You believe that it would have a con- 
siderable effect upon the commercial operations in regard to forest 
products in this country if there should be a knowledge of these 
things easily available, and the skill to deal with them?” “I 
have no doubt of it.” 
“‘ Have you any experience of the great forest products in India, 
turpentine, resin, bark, and so on.” “Yes, a great deal. I took 
up that subject when I first had charge of the southern forests ; in 
fact I began collecting these things myself on behalf of the Govern- 
ment, not as a source of revenue so much as for the benefit of the 
people of the jungle. I wished to conciliate them, and at the 
same time to get them to help me in the matter of conservancy, 
and therefore I took to buying from them all the various indi- 
genous hill or jungle produce, such as barks, gums, resins, wax, 
cardamons, ginger, &c.”—“ If a system of collecting and disposing 
of forest products were instituted in this country, would it not neces- 
sarily lead to very considerable industries, which would be of 
