140 REPORT OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON FORESTRY. 
course of forestry, forest management, elementary botany, perhaps, 
and so on, so that they need not spend their whole time in forest 
education, but might be carrying on their other education at the 
same time.”’—“Then it might be arranged that the instruction 
should be given at a particular period of the year, so that people 
engaged in the management of woodlands might come up at a par- 
ticular period of the year, as they do in Scotland?” ‘I think you 
might supplement the system as much as possible ; I think, from 
inquiries I made as to the means of education at the disposal of the 
people, both in Edinburgh and London, that they are sufficient to 
afford the means of giving a forest education, if this special instruc- 
tion be added.”—‘“ I suppose it would be necessary in the case of 
any forest school, that you should have the opportunity of sending 
the students into woodlands to see the practical management on the 
spot, would it not?” “It would be absolutely necessary. Even 
as regards the growth of trees, if you tell a man that the oak will 
not grow alone, it is no use telling him so in the lecture-room, 
unless you take him out in the forest and show him where it is not 
succeeding by itself, and where it is succeeding with other trees.” 
—‘“ It would not be possible to leave it altogether to private enter- 
prise ; because it would be necessary to have access to woodlands 
of some extent?” ‘It would be absolutely necessary to have 
access to large woodlands.”—“ Do you think that even if no assist- 
ance were asked for from Government, it would be desirable that 
Government lands should be rendered available for the teaching of 
students in forest schools?” ‘Certainly, and I believe many of 
our private owners would open their lands willingly to the pupils. 
From my personal inquiries, I might say that there would be no 
difficulty in getting access for the pupils to the different forests.” — 
“ You think, as I gather from you, that a person who would be 
receiving £50 or £60 a year without any training might, after a 
year or two’s training, be worth a good deal more?” ‘“ He might 
be worth double his present salary.” 
“You want men for the forest service of a superior class of 
general education, do you not, for the superior officers?” “No; 
speaking of the English forests, I do not think they are any of 
them of sufficient extent to allow for the salaries of highly paid 
men, and therefore you could not have them alone. But my view 
is that means should be put at the disposal of people who will 
become land agents to obtain a knowledge of forestry ; then they 
would be able to control their wood bailiffs; and I would at the 
