146 REPORT OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON FORESTRY. 
the forest schools I would teach all the principles upon which trees 
grow and are produced, and the principles of germination of the 
seed.” —“ Would you think that the course of education indicated 
by my honourable friend the member for Dublin County [Dr Lyons], 
was a little too ambitious in its scope? What the honourable 
member suggests is very excellent ; it is perfectly right in theory, 
but_in practice would you get the men to come to you!” “TI think 
you would get more pupils under your system than you would under 
his, but I do not know why you should offer a low system of 
education. I would raise my standard of education as high as 
possible ; that is to say, I would have the lectures so arranged that 
the pupils who commence, we will say, and proceed up to a certain 
point should profit according to their wants equally as those who 
carried on their studies further.”—‘ But you will not get university 
men to come to the school and go through this course of training, 
unless there is some inducement held out: what occupation would 
these men get afterwards?” ‘ They might go to the Indian forests 
if the Indian forests were open to them ; or they might go to the 
colonial forests, where, undoubtedly, there will be a demand now in 
due course.” But with regard to the English woods?” ‘The 
higher educated men would not easily find remunerative employ- 
ment in English woods.”—‘* What we want would be practical 
foresters, whom you would pay at the rate of £100 a year or so?” 
‘“« The practical education you would want for that man would be 
the same as for the higher man; but you would carry on their 
education to the point only to mich it suited them to go, and to 
which they could afford to go.” 
“The class of men who would be edtleated in such a school of 
forestry as you speak of would be able to earn a fair living, would 
they not, as travelling foresters, going about and giving directions, 
and laying out, as a sort of advanced landscape gardener?” ‘As 
advisers I think the superior class of men might. My idea would 
be to make the education accessible to all; I would have a course 
of lectures which would commence from the beginning, from simple 
subjects and with simple experiments, going on to higher subjects 
such as Dr Lyons keeps in view. If you pay a man, you may just 
as well keep him at work. I would first give an elementary course, 
then a more advanced course, and then a little more advanced 
course still; the wood manager would attend the first, the land 
agent the second, and the man who wanted a thorough education 
would attend the three terms, or something of that kind. In that 
