148 REPORT OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON FORESTRY. 
a perfect forester, because he does not know a lot of things that 
scientific education alone can impart, and which it would be impos- 
sible for him to understand unless he had a scientific knowledge of 
a number of things which a man of that class would not know.”— 
“T do not know whether you are aware that at the Agricultural 
College at Cirencester the higher class of pupils have labourers who 
attend them from time to time, and who go out afterwards as 
bailiffs, but who acquire a certain knowledge of farm management 
by being attached to the College, which enables them to get better 
places than that of mere bailiffs?” ‘“ Without saying anything 
about the school at Cirencester, which I have seen, that is quite the 
right principle to go on.”——“ So that a School of Forestry might be 
educating a certain number of men who are in the position of 
labourers, who, having obtained a superior knowledge of the best 
mode of managing woods, might ultimately go out as woodmen ?” 
“No doubt. I would be in favour of making the education as com- 
prehensive and bringing it down as low as possible.” 
“You think that if the Government would give facilities, the 
New Forest or the Forest of Dean would be good localities for 
affording instruction on the spot?” ‘There is one spot in the 
Forest of Dean which is especially suitable for instruction, and that 
is the High Meadow Woods. The only thing is that in the Forest 
of Dean you can show little or nothing as regards the management 
of conifers ; both that and the New Forest are mainly leaf forests, 
and you would want to take a man into some forest where the larch 
is planted by itself, because that involves totally different require- 
ments from the trees which you see in the Forest of Dean. Mr 
Symonds thought he could teach a good deal in Windsor about 
conifers, but when I was there I had not sufficient time to go into 
the question as to whether the plantations about the Windsor 
Forest are sufficiently varied, because it is a very important thing 
that the forest in which you give the instruction should be consider- 
ably varied. You require every variation of soil, climate, and 
exposure.” —“ But practically for the experimental works those two 
localities would afford a commencement?” ‘They would afford a 
certain field. It would be for the professor who had the instruction 
to give, to say what facilities he wanted ; but I do not think, from 
what I saw myself in going round the English and Scottish forests, 
that there is the least indisposition on the part of many of the great 
owners of forest lands to allow pupils to be conducted through their 
woods. After all, the teaching is merely a question of example. 
