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in a tract of forest into what we should call order, and it would 
take years to bring it into what we should call a proper state ; 
but the very fact of doing that would be instructive of itself.”— 
“No doubt, after that process had been gone through, the forests 
would be more suitable for instruction than they are at present ; 
but I understand you say that even at present there are wood- 
lands which would serve fairly well for purposes of instruction ¢” 
“T think any intelligent and educated forester would adapt his 
teaching to the place.” 
“Out of the £1350 which you have estimated as the pro- 
bable cost of your forest school, a considerable amount, no 
doubt, would come back in the shape of fees; do you think it 
would be possible to form any estimate at present of what the net 
expense might be?” ‘It is very difficult to do so. I have talked 
the subject over with Mr Rogers, of the Surveyors’ Institution, 
and he thought that we might soon calculate upon 50 pupils.” — 
“That would be 50 pupils of the higher class?” ‘‘ Yes.” —“Therefore 
the expense probably would not be any considerable proportion of 
the £1350, and possibly after a time it would be self-supporting ?” 
“ We thought we might charge them £20 for the course ; if so, that 
would provide for £1000, and then you would pick up whatever 
you charged the wood-reeves. If their masters paid for them, no 
doubt you might charge them an appreciable sum; but upon the 
young men themselves, who hoped to get employment afterwards, 
you would have to put a low fee. I am not very well acquainted 
with the sums paid for education by those classes, but I think 
generally you could very soon either cover or nearly cover the sum.” 
—‘“Then there would probably be some young men who would go 
to the school with the view to obtaining employment in the Colonies 
afterwards?” ‘Yes; but I suppose men who would hope to get 
appointments in the Colonies would hardly get a sufficient amount 
of training here. The Colonies would look for young men who had 
spent more upon their education, who had been sent to Cooper’s 
Hill, and gone through a perfect course there.” —“ The young men 
who would be qualified for the Indian forest service would clearly be 
qualified for the Colonial forest service?” ‘Certainly ; for one or 
two who have failed to get appointments for India I have obtained 
appointments in the Colonies, and the Colonies have gladly accepted 
them.”—“ Is there any point which you would like to add to your 
evidence?” ‘JT think that embraces pretty well all that [have to say.” 
“Ts Cooper's Hill purely a place for theoretical instruction?” “Up 
