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have a higher standard and carry more weight if they were 

 granted by the University. We may be in special circumstances, 

 because in Aberdeen we own an estate in which there are over 

 200 acres of woodland capable of carrying all kinds of trees 

 and providing special facilities for training foresters if we were 

 only allowed to proceed. I therefore do not at present see 

 my way to agree to that clause in this minute, as representing 

 the North of Scotland College of Agriculture and also the 

 Aberdeen Branch of this Society." 



Mr Allan. — -" I think the degree of B.Sc, which is granted 

 by the University at present, was for a class of men who have 

 a much higher education than those who would go in for the 

 ordinary college diploma. A great many foresters would like 

 to go further and secure the diploma which would give a 

 distinguishing mark to them, but they could not pass the 

 University Preliminary Examination, and therefore they would 

 not be able to get the diploma if the University granted it. 

 So we recommend that the Universities continue to give their 

 course and grant the B.Sc. in Forestry, but that the various 

 colleges give a course and grant the diploma to foresters 

 who have not got sufficient education to go forward for the 

 University Preliminary." 



Mr Menmuir. — " I think the last speaker has said what is 

 absolutely necessary in regard to forestry education. The 

 University is all very well for the B.Sc. degree, but the 

 agricultural colleges are the proper bodies to give the diploma 

 in forestry. There is no doubt about that. It is a mistake 

 for us to imagine that the Universities can do this work. They 

 are more for general training in other things, but the agricultural 

 colleges should be looked to as being the seat of learning in 

 forestry. In regard to the training of the forester, I would 

 propose that a young man gets three years' practical training 

 before he goes to college, because if he has only one year's 

 practical training and then goes to college for two years' 

 theoretical teaching, he would likely want to come out more 

 as a lecturer. Moreover, we know that in any calling a man 

 wants to be a certain number of years at it to get it thoroughly 

 fixed in his mind and develop the power of concentration, and 

 one twelve-month only and then theoretical training at the 

 college would not be sufficient. I therefore recommend that 

 three years ought to be spent by a young man in practical 



