DISCUSSION ON FORESTRY ADMINISTRATION AND EDUCATION. I 5 



work, and then if he wishes to take up the theoretical aspect 

 of it he can go to the college for it." 



Mr Allan. — "That was one point I did not mention. In 

 the report of the Committee we do not say that they are only 

 to have one year, but one year at least. They may take the 

 whole three years before they go and take the diploma, but 

 we thought it better to leave a little latitude because circum- 

 stances might not be always the same." 



Sir Hugh Shaw-Stewart. — " I would like to be assured, and 

 I daresay Dr Borthwick can give the information with regard 

 to the diploma proposed to be granted by the colleges, that 

 the examinations at the different colleges will be practically 

 uniform. I suppose we can be sure of that." 



Dr Borthwick. — "They would be made as similar as possible. 

 As regards the practical training of the young forester, if three 

 years is insisted upon before he begins his training, then it 

 might mean that the practical work would have to start pretty 

 early. Suppose he starts at 14 or 15, by the time he was 17 or 

 18 he might go in for his first class at the college, but if you 

 insisted on three years previous to the college you probably 

 would start him rather early on forestry work, before he can 

 make real use of it as a forestry apprentice, although the 

 sooner he begins the better. Three years is a fairly long time 

 in a young man's training for a career, and if that is to come 

 before the training in the college it might frighten him, but if 

 he can put in a year or so of technical training combined with 

 practical instruction during those three years, or following them, 

 it would be much easier for him to take advantage of such a 

 course." 



Mr Richardson. — "The point is this, before a man can get a 

 diploma he must have had three years' practical forestry, one 

 year of which must be before he entered on the course at all." 



The Chairman. — " I do not think there is anything between 

 you." 



Mr Menmuir. — " I have known young men, who perhaps have 

 had a twelve-month at ordinary work, go to the college for a 

 year or two and get a distaste for doing ordinary manual work. 

 They would rather prefer to be paid for watching other people 

 working, consequently, seeing there are so many people like 

 that, they cannot all get employment." 



Sir James Campbell. — "I have just one word of explanation. 



