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the Banffshire rose are less hairy than the Ormiston and 
Irish forms, and the fruits are abortive to such an extent 
that Mr. Barclay finds it difficult to decide whether the 
sepals become erect or not. There is, consequently, con- 
siderable difficulty in determining whether the second 
parent is R. dumetorum, Thuill., or R. coriifolia, Fr. 
Being anxious to see the Ormiston plant, I visited the 
locality this autumn, and, guided by directions from Mr. 
Barclay, I had no difficulty in finding the bush. Unfortun- 
ately it had not flowered owing to a recent and evidently 
severe trimming. All 1 was able to obtain were portions 
of strong vegetative shoots which had grown most 
vigorously. 
In “ Review of British Roses,” Baker describes a marked 
variety of R. hibernica which he calls var. glabra. He 
reports it from Sutherlandshire besides several English 
counties; but as no date is given for the Scottish record, 
it is difficult to say whether this or Gorrie’s plant was the 
first hibernica for Scotland. In var. glabra the leaflets 
are glabrous, and this indicates that the second parent is 
one of the glabrous varieties of the eu-canine, probably 
R. canina, L., or perhaps R. glauca, Vill. The variety 
glabra has been recorded from at least three other Scottish 
counties—Banft, Aberdeen, and Perth, but in the last it is 
now extinct. In both the north of Scotland localities the 
sepals are reflexed. and this gives rise to the idea that the 
second parent must be R. canina, possibly of the group 
lutetiana, Léman. Yet R. canina is less frequent in the 
district than R. glauca, and one would have expected, as 
Mr. Barclay has pointed out, R. glauca to be the second 
parent. But R. glauca has the sepals erect. 
Dr. Christ’s opinion was that the Irish forms of R. hiber- 
nica had for their second parent a form of R. canima which 
has reflexed sepals. Crépin, in his “ Rosae Hybridae,” holds 
a different view, and believes that the second parent is R. 
coriifolia, which has erect sepals. In support of this view 
he refers to a specimen in Botanic Garden herbarium in 
which the sepals are quite erect. But others, as we have 
seen, have the sepals reflexed. 
To summarise, it seems to me that forms of R. hibernica 
with erect sepals are likely to have for the second parent 
