418 
NOTES AND QUERIES. 
[254 S. Ne 21., May 24, 56, 
rr 
by Snelling in one of his tracts on the coinage. I 
fear they would be too long for the pages of “ N. 
& Q.;” but a complete list of tradesmen’s tokens 
of the seventeenth century is very desirable, with 
the names of collectors, and the districts which 
their collections embrace. I have a list of Nor- 
folk tokens, and another contributor to “N. & 
Q.” has, to my knowledge, an equally complete 
Suffolk list. K. 8S. Tayror. 
Ormesby St. Margaret. 
_—— 
Bvdsdell may be Botesdale in Suffolk, pronounced 
Budsdale by the native Saxons of the present day, 
if J.S.S. would name the tradesman of that 
place to whose token he refers, the matter might 
possibly be placed beyond doubt; and the like 
might be done for Walkhampton and Dulverton, 
by residents in their respective neighbourhoods. 
Geo, E. Frere. 
Royden Hall, Diss. 
J.§.S. may wish to learn that the places he 
mentions I take to be Brdsdell (of which I pos- 
sess one token thus spelt), formerly Buddesdale, 
now Botesdale, county Suffolk. Ostenfield, most 
probably was Austenfield, county Stafford. Walh- 
ham is in the Hundred of Wells, county Somer- 
setshire; and I think preferable to Walk-hampton 
in county Devon. Also, Roell, I should say, was 
Rowell, county Gloucester ; but in very many in- 
stances, as the names are now so altered, a list 
would be very useful to all readers of your es- 
teemed periodical. C. G. 
Paddington. 
One of the places inquired for is, no doubt, 
Botesdale, in Suffolk, pronounced to this day 
Budsdale ; which comes sufficiently close to the 
name as spelt in the Query of J. S. S., Budsdell. 
PCH. 
Aeplies td Pinoy Queries. 
Bells of Ouzeley (2 S. i, 213.) — The six 
famous bells of Osney Abbey, near Oxford, whose 
names were Douce, Clement, Austin, Hautecter, 
Gabriel, and John, are mentioned by Hearne in his 
Collection of Discourses, preface p. lvi., and vol. ii. 
p- 11.414. The public house acquired its sign 
from having been built for the accommodation of 
bargemen and others navigating between London | 
and Oxford. See Satirist, vol. i. p. 176. The 
present name, the alteration in the number of | 
bells, and the heraldic form of the sign, are ob- 
vious corruptions, J. F. M. 
Capital Punishments (2™ §,. i. 374.) — The in- 
formation sought for by your correspondent will 
be found in two books; first, in Grimm’s Deutsche 
. 
grams and anecdotes have a double value when | 
verified with respect to time, place, and circum- 
stances, it may be worth while to note that the 
cause of Orford v. Cole, to which the above epi- 
| gram relates, was tried at the Lancaster Spring 
Assizes in 1818, and the point is reported in 
2 Starkie, 351. J. 
Alterthumer, a work very generally known, and 
prized by all who know it; secondly, in another 
work, not so well known as it deserves, and the 
title of which I therefore give in full: 
“Jacobi Dépleri Theatrum Peenarum, Suppliciorum et 
Executionum Criminalium, Sonderhausen, 1693.” 
W.B. MacCanr, 
“ Lady Alice,” Ballad of (2° §. i. 354.) — ; 
“ Lady Alice was sitting in her bower window, 
Mending her midnight coif: 
And there she saw as fine a corpse, 
As ever she saw in her life. 
“ What bear ye, what bear ye, ye six men tall? 
What bear ye on your shoulders? 
We bear the corpse of Giles Collins, 
An old and true lover of yours. 
“O lay him down gently, ye six men tall, 
All on the grass so green, 
And to-morrow, before the sun goes down, 
Lady Alice a corpse shall be seen. 
“ Giles Collins was buried all in the east, 
Lady Alice all in the west. 
And the roses* that grow on Giles Collins’s grave, 
They reach’d Lady Alice’s breast. 
“ The priest of the parish, he chane’d to pass by, 
And sever’d these roses* in twain. 
Sure never were seen such true lovers before, 
Nor ever there will be again.” 
This old song was refined and modernised by 
the late Richard Westall, R.A. Epw. Hawkins. 
Passages in Gower (2° S. i. 174. 221.) — Of 
the proverbial saying, ‘“ Had I wist,” I had col- 
lected several examples, but unfortunately have 
mislaid them. Ican, however, supply an instance 
of its use from an inedited moral poem in the 
Lincoln MS., A. 1. 17., of the fifteenth century, 
f, 51b., entitled “‘ Lamentacio peccatoris.” 
“Tn sclewythe I lay, and sclepyd stylle, 
I was desavyd throw a tryst, 
This dredfule ded I drawe me tylle, 
And alle yt torned to Adywyst. 
« Add I wist that wylle not bee, 
I wot I mune never more thweyne; 
Vore hym that dyed for 3ow and me 
Ryes, and rest not in Jowr synne.” 
Me 
Forensic Jocularity (2°° S. i. 148.) — As epi- 
F. M. 
Approach of Vessels (2™4 §. i. 315.) — Your 
correspondent, forgetting that Mauritius was then 
a French colony, asks if the second-sighted signal 
man, who used his faculty to the detriment of 
* Lilies? 
