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and means, according to some Celtic scholars of 
my acquaintance, Gilds-gow, the white-smith, — 
probably the smith with white or fair hair: no 
doubt St. Mungo took the name as he found it. 
The hut of a worker in metals, in these dark and 
pre-historic periods, would be a centre for a whole 
district, and a point of pilgrimage by hunters and 
warriors for a long day’s journey all round. If 
Glas-gow first got its name and fame as a metal 
workshop, truly it has kept it. ©. D. Lamonr. 
Hinoar Notes. 
‘ Trinovantum. — 
“Tnterea Trinovantum firmissima civitas Czsari sese 
dedit.” — Bede, lib. i. c. 2. 
Mr. Stevenson’s note upon this is ‘“ probably 
London,” intimating that Trinovantum was a city 
or town of the Trinobantes. Dr. Giles gives it us 
plump out, translating the passage thus, “In the 
meantime the strong city of Trinovantum.” 
Is not this pure hallucination? Bede copied 
Orosius, and Orosius Ciesar I suppose, who says : 
“Tnterim Trinobantes prope firmissima earum regionum 
Miler ad eum in Galliam venerat.” — De Bel. Gal., v. 
It is plain, I think, that the Trinovantum of Oro 
sius is nothing more than the genitive case of 
Cesar’s Trinobantes, and that it has no claim 
whatever to a local habitation or a name upon any 
map of England, whether British or Roman. It 
seems, however, that both Orosius and Bedé as- 
signed to “civitas” the unclassical meaning of 
city or town, inasmuch as they both add; immedi-+ 
ately after the above passage, that “ urbes alize 
complures in feedus Romanortim venerunt.” But 
these “ other cities” can mean no more than the 
Cenimagni and other tribes that Caesar mentions 
in his subsequent chapter. : 
Milton says that “ Orosius took what he wrote 
from a history of Suetonius, now lost.” What 
authority can Milton have had for that state+ 
ment ? L. 
“ English Sovereigns die on Saturdays.” —The 
attached cutting, from Tuesday’s Times is curious, 
and no doubt very “German.” Are the coinci« 
dences stated correct, and has any one else no-« 
ticed the fact, or can the list be enlarged ? 
“Tt has often been remarked what a fondness the 
Germans have for grubbing in the ashes of the past, and 
indulging in profitless speculations as to principles, and 
all manner of abstractions, instead of devoting themselves 
to the study of the present with a view to the future. 
The following is a flagrant proof of this tendency, as well 
as of bad taste: = One of these microscopical students of 
history has detected that Saturday is the usual day for 
the decease of the monarch in England, and adduces the 
death of William III., on Saturday, March 18, 17025 of 
Queen Anne, Saturday, August 1, 1714; of George I, 
Saturday, June 10, 1727; of George IL, Saturday, Oc- 
tober 25, 1760; of George IIL, Saturday, January 30, 
1820; George IV., Saturday, June 26, 1830; and William 
IV., Saturday, June 20, 1837.* The inference that is 
drawn from this repeated coincidence is, that it is a part 
of Court etiquette in England for the kings to depart this 
life on a Saturday.” 4 
C, D. Lamont. 
Tinder. — As the increasing use of Veste and 
Luciferi bids fair to supersede the triple alliance 
of the flint, the steel, and the tinder, I think it 
may be well to record in your pages the derivation 
of the last-named word (which I find not in any 
dictionary to which I have present access), by the 
following quotation from Southey’s Common- Place 
Book, Third Series, p. 49. : 
“ Featley, Clavis Mystica, 1636, p. 143. Lights hanging 
in churthes and noblemen’s halls, let down to be tinded, 
i.e, lighted; a pure Anglo-Saxon word, still used by the 
common people in the midland and northern counties, 
and not obsolete, as seems implied by some lexicographers, - 
—J.W.W.” 
Guo. E. Frere. 
Royden Hall, Diss. © 
The Crystal Palace, and the Claims of Poland and 
Panslavia.—Amongst the many subjects which cons 
stantly engross public attention, it has not been 
prominently enough stated, that the bust«collection 
of the Sydenham People’s Palace is the most coms 
plete and fine which has ever existed. ‘The more 
urgent the claim, that every one of the nationali- 
ties of Europe should be there duly represented. 
Strange to say, there does not even exist any- 
thing relating to Poland or Panslavia within the 
walls of this edifice; so much so, that nofie even 
of the historical sculptures of the cathedrals at 
Cracow, Gnesen, Nowgorod, &c., have been copied. 
Circumscribing myself inerely to the busts (effi- 
gies) of great men, the following of the Slavian 
race are much wanted in the palace:— John 
Huss, religious reformator ; Zizka, religious level- 
ler; Sigismund the Great, of Poland; Copernicus, 
astronomer ; Comenius, educator ; Peter the Great 
of Russia; Karamzin, historian ; Kosciuszko, war- 
rior ; Linde, literator ; Lelewel, historian; Razu- 
mowshi, statesman; Kotzebue, navigator; Pestel, 
philosopher and statesman; Bestuszev, poet; Adam 
Czartoryshi, statesman ; Mickiewicz, poet; Dud- 
ley Coutts Stuart, Philoslave. The busts of all 
these may be obtained in the places where they 
lived, or might be compiled from portraits, &c. 
J. Lotsxy, Panslave. 
15. Gower Street, London. 
Numerous Families. — I do not recollect seeing 
the following instance, copied from a paper of the 
date, recorded — 
“Monday (21st Noy. 1768), the wife of Mr. Shury, 
cooper, of Vine Street, Westminster, was delivered of two 
fine boys, which, together with all her former childreii by 
Mr. Shury, makes in the whole tweiity-six, and What is 
{* June 20, 1837, was on T'uesday. } 
