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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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forbidding them to appear at the bar of any court 

 of law as practitioners ? X. X. 



Teresa and Martha Blount. — Are any portraits 

 in existence of these ladies, the friends of Pope ? 

 and if so, have engraved copies been made of them ? 



Uneda. 

 Philadelphia. 



The Pronunciation of the Latin Language. — The 

 earliest teachers of the dead lanjjuages in the 

 British colonies now forming the Middle States of 

 the American Union, were natives of Ireland, in 

 which country the Latin language was (and, I be- 

 lieve, still is) pronounced in the same manner as on 

 the continent of Europe ; hence that pronuncia- 

 tion prevailed here universally until within the 

 hist thirty years. Micfia, musce, were pronounced 

 musaJi^muaay, and not musay, muse, as in Eng- 

 land. The vowel i was almost universally sounded 

 like the English e, and not like the English i, the 

 sound of which is, I think, not to be found in any 

 of the modern languages of Europe which are 

 derived from the Latin. It was understood here 

 that Latin was pronounced in Scotland in the 

 same way as in Ireland and on the continent of 

 Europe. 



About thirty-five years ago, a sort of conven- 

 tion was held in New England of college profes- 

 sors, which resolved that thereafter the English 

 sound of a as in woTdfate, and the English sound 

 of CB like e in mere should be adopted in their 

 teaching, thus following the mode peculiar to 

 England alone of all the European countries. 



This new method of pronouncing has since 

 spread somewhat beyond the limits of New Eng- 

 land, as many professors of languages migrate to 

 other States of the Union. I believe that the 

 continental pronunciation is more probably cor- 

 rect than that in use in England and lately intro- 

 duced here ; but in settling the question it may 

 be well to inquire how Latin is pronounced in 

 Hungary, where it has always been a living lan- 

 guage, serving as the medium of intercommunica- 

 tion among the different races inhabiting that 

 country, and speaking distinct languages. Who 

 can tell through the medium of " N. & Q." how 

 Latin is pronounced in Hungary ? What is the 

 pronunciation of the vowel e in Latin words on 

 the continent of Europe, and how is it to he dis- 

 tinguished from CB f Uneda. 



Philadelphia. 



Waters and Gilbert Arms.^1 should like to 

 obtain some information in regard to the follow- 

 ing coat of arms : Argent, on a chevron vert, two 

 lleur-de-lis, between three cinque-foils or, on a 

 chief gules, two crescents of the third ; by the 

 name of AVaters.. Also in regard to an " Hon. 

 Henry Gilbert, of Barkeshire, in England," to 

 whom a coat of arms was granted " in the year 



1703;" and a "Sir Stephen Waters, Knight, of 

 the West of England," to whom arms were granted 

 "in the year 1621." In fact, any items of mform- 

 ation relating to them or their descendants will 

 be most acceptable to Clement. 



Cambridge, America. 



Engraved Portraits of Turner. — N. J. A. would 

 be glad to know what portraits of J. M. W. 

 Turner are extant, their merits and price, as he 

 has never been fortunate enough to meet with 

 more than one, and that one by no means realises 

 his ideal as gathered from Mr. Ruskin's mention 

 of him. 



Sir Philip Savage. — ■ Wanted any particulars 

 respecting the parentage of The Right Honourable 

 Philip Savage, Chancellor of the Exchequer in 

 Ireland in the reign of Queen Anne. Em. 



Hei-aldic Query. — Can a family, entitled to 

 bear arms, receive the right to quarter the arms 

 of another family, in which the connecting link be- 

 tween the two families is not entitled to bear 

 arms ? For instance, the A. family bore arms ; 

 its sole heiress married into the B. family, which 

 was not entitled to that privilege. The heiress of 

 the B.s married into the C. family. Can the de- 

 scendant of the C.s quarter the arms of his an- 

 cestors, the A.s ? 



Also, can a person quarter the arms of a family, 

 none of the blood of which runs in his veins? For 

 instance, suppose the brother of L. M.'s grand- 

 mother (father's mother) marries the heiress of a 

 family, that their only issue was a son (he quar- 

 tered his mother's arms), who, dying without issue, 

 his estate and that of his mother, the heiress, 

 went by law and by will to his nearest heir Qiis 

 cousin), L. M.'s father. Is L. M. entitled to 

 quarter the heiress' arms with his own ? 



NoN So. 



Roses and Lances blessed by the Pope. — Barriere, 

 in the introductory Essay to the Memoires du 

 Comte de Brienne, p. 163., says : — 



" Elle (Rome) envoyoif. a I'epoque dont uons nous oc- 

 cupons une rose binite aux princesses qui se mariaieat et 

 des lanzes beiiis poui' lea enfans des Rois." 



How long has this custom ceased ? Who was 

 the last princess of France who received " la rose 

 benite " on her marriage ? Who was the last 

 prince to whom the blessed lance was forwarded ? 



R. L. 



White Horse in Yorkshire. — There was for- 

 merly a figure of a horse (similar to that so well- 

 known white horse in Berkshire) on the Hamble- 

 don Hills on the north part of the West Riding 

 of Yorkshire. It is said to have been in existence 

 at the commencement of the [)resent century, and 

 was to be seen looking east from Ripon. Can any 

 Yorkshire antiquary furnish information on this 



