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NOTES AND QUERIES. [2»d S. VI. m., July 24. '58. 



Herbert and Sibilla's death. Sibilla was grand- 

 inotber to Peter Fitz Herbert, one of the Magna- 

 Charta barons. M. (1.) 



Cabnj Family. — What is known of Joseph 

 Cabry, miniature-portrait painter ? Who did he 

 marry ? He liad a son, Joseph, also a portrait 

 painter, &c. He was in Ireland during the rebel- 

 lion of 1798 ; he was afterwards, from 1810 — 16, 

 major of Duke of York's School at Chelsea. In 

 1792 be married Ann Halcrow, at Islington 

 church. It is believed the Cabry family were 

 related to those of the Lords Petre and Der- 

 wentwater. Any particulars or pedigrees of the 

 families, or either of them, will greatly oblige 



James Coleman. 



Bloonisburj'. 



Black Paper, Sfc, for Ttuhbings of Brasses. — 

 Can any of your readers inform me where I can 

 obtain the black paper and brass-looking sub- 

 stance used for rubbings of monumental brasses? 

 I have seen several, and have been informed some 

 member of the Camden Society invented it. 



T. M. 



Or cat Gates of the Great Exhibition. — What 

 became of the great gates which were exhibited 

 at the Crystal Palace Exhibition in 1851 ? If sold, 

 who purchased them ? and where are they now ? 



A. B. 



English and Welsh Language in Pembrokeshire. 

 — As you have correspondents who date from 

 Haverfordwest, perhaps some of them could in- 

 'form me to what extent the English language has 

 displaced the Welsh in the county of Pembroke- 

 shire. G. C. G. 



Demosthenes' Advice. — It is said that Demo- 

 sthenes, when asked what was the first Iting an 

 orator should attend to with a view to attaining 

 excellence, replied, "action." The second? "ac- 

 tion." The third? "action." Who transmitted 

 this anecdote to posterity, and where is the pas- 

 sage to be found ? What is the Greek word used 

 by Demosthenes for " action," and what does it 

 mean ? I find that my speeches in the House 

 don't tell, and I should like to try Demosthenes' 

 dodge. Tristeam. 



Forged Assignats. — I have heard it asserted 

 that during the war with France that followed 

 the revolution of 1789, Mr. Pitt's government 

 landed on the French coast a large number of 

 forged assignats, for the express purpose of weak- 

 ening the national credit of the republican :,'o- 

 vernment. Can any of your readers say what 

 ground there is for this anecdote ? It would be 

 well for the honour of England, and for the credit 

 of modern warfare, if it were totally disproved. 

 On the other band, if true, the historian should be 

 enabled to verify the fact, E. C. R. 



The Vesper Hour said to be " between the Dog 

 and the Wolf." — Why is the hour of vespers so 

 designated? In the year 21-22 of Edward I., 

 Agnes, widow of Walter of Hindemers, complain- 

 ing of an assault made on her house, says the in- 

 surgents came — 



" Die Dominica post annunciationem Beatae Marisa 

 Virginis liora vespertina, scilicet inter canem et lupum, 

 anno regni regis Edwardi duodecimo." — Rotuli Pari. i. 

 122. 



J. w. 



Bibliographical Queries. — Who wrote the fol- 

 lowing : — 



1. " Melantius upoa the Education of the People," 8vo. 

 Dublin, 1789. 



2. " Sketch of the Reign of George the Third, from 

 1780 to the close of 1790," 8vo., Dublin, 1791. 



3. " Impartial Relation of the Military Operations in 

 Ireland, in consequence of the landing of French Troops 

 under General Humbert, in August, 1798," 8vo., London, 

 1799. 



4. " Letter to the Roman Catholic Clergy of Ireland on 

 Revealed Religion, and the Purity of the early Irish 

 Church." By Catholicus Verus, 8vo., London, 1824. 



Abhba. 



Stirling Peerage. — The American earl died 

 without issue male, his line ending in heirs female. 

 Are his collections to substantiate his claim still 

 existing ? J. M. 



Miniaturists and Illuminators. — Some weeks 

 ago a Query of mine was printed relating to the 

 lives of the miniaturists and illuminators. Can 

 no one tell me whether anybody has written a 

 biography of any of them? I wish especially for 

 particulars concerning Anse Memling, Attavante, 

 and Giulio Clovio. John AV. Bradley. 



[There has been lately printed, but with this provoking 

 proviso, " Not published," a work of great research, and 

 containing a considerable amount of curious and varied 

 information, which we hope our correspondent, "by Hook 

 or by Crook," will be able to peruse. It is entitled Two 

 Lectures on Illuminated Manuscripts, and of tlie Art of 

 Ilhimbiation, London, 1857. This Paradise of Dainty 

 Devises is the joint production of Richard Thomson, Li- 

 brarian of the London Institution, and William Tite, 

 Esq., M.P., F.R.S., F.S.A. Two of the artists inquired 

 after are noticed in this delightful work. The Florentine 

 artist, named Attavante or Vante, was employed by 

 Matthias Corvinus, King of Hungary. M. Curmer has 

 published several very interesting specimens of his style, 

 the tinest of which are taken from the Roman History 

 written out of the works of Orosius, a MS. preserved in 

 the Bibliothfeque de I'Arsenal. Lanzi states that Atta- 

 vante was living in 1484; but his roj'al patron died in 

 1490. Don Giorgio Giulio, or Giulio Clovio, was 

 born at Grisone, a town in the province of Austrian-Italy 

 called Croatia. As Vasari states that " from his child- 

 hood he was kept to the study of letters, and that he took 

 to design by instinct," it seems to be almost unquestion- 

 able that he was educated in some religions establishment, 

 where also he acquired the rudiments of the Art of Illu- 

 minating. When he was eighteen he went into Italy, 



