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titioners of the art, I will briefly state what occasioned 

 the remarks of which they form a part. 



" Mr. John Pouncy, of High West-street, Dorchester, was 

 accepted in June last as a competitor for the S.OOOf. prize 

 offered by M. le Due de Luynes for the best specimen of pho- 

 tographic printing in carbon. This prize will be adjudged 

 next year, and meanwhile the Duke has submitted all the 

 processes and specimens which he has received to the ex- 

 amination of a commission appointed by the French Pho- 

 tographic Society. 



"Several of these specimens, &c., were brought before 

 the notice of the July meeting, the Bulletin of which has 

 just been issued. Mr. Pouncy's proofs, as will be seen 

 below, had been submitted to the severest possible tests, 

 and had successfully resisted all. The following extracts 

 from the minutes will now speak for themselves : — 



" ' M. Girard communicated to the societj' some informa- 

 tion regarding the positive proofs which Mr. Pouncy has ob- 

 tained by means of a new process, and which have been 

 sent by the author with a view to their competing for the 

 prize of the Due de Luynes. 



" 'About four months since certain photographic jour- 

 nals in England, and more especially that conducted by 

 Mr. Thomas Sutton, have been employed in considering a 

 process hitherto kept a secret and discovered by Mr. 

 Pouncy, of Dorchester — a process from which photogra- 

 phic proofs may be obtained, the blacks of which are 

 drawn in carbon. 



" ' In one of the numbers of this journal, Jilr. Sutton, 

 who had had an opportunity of examining the proofs, 

 pronounced the opinion that they were produced bona 



fide from carbon M. Girard added that it had 



seemed interesting to him to examine these proofs with- 

 out delay and without waiting for the labours of the 

 society to commence, that thus no one might be left in 

 needless suspense. According to his tests they are the 

 legitimate results of carbon — they have resisted a long 

 immersion in concentrated nitric, or hj'drochloric, acid ; in 

 aqua regalis ; in C3'anide of potassium ; in cyanide of po- 

 tassium strengthened with iodide ; and, lastlj-, in alkaline 

 • sulpburets. Not one of these powerful agents has infiu- 

 . enced them in the least.' 



" We have thus a problem solved in photography, a 

 most important desideratum gained ; for, whatever may 

 be the artistic value of Mr. Pouncy's proofs, here is one 

 plain fact — he has printed photographs in carbon, and 

 his prints have resisted the most powerful known tests in 

 chymistry. Now, the process by which these results 

 have been achieved has been secured by a provisional 

 patent since April last. In a very short time the inven- 

 tor — a hard-working, practical photographer — will have 

 to decide whether the patent shall be proceeded with or 

 not. Meanwhile, the process might be purchased. Is it 

 possible that so valuable an invention will be lost to the 

 English public, and all for want of a wealthy patron of 

 photography to step forward and secure it ? " 



I myself know enough of the nature of Mr. Pouncy's 

 process to be able to warrant its indelibility. 



Sholto Macduff, 



Hcplic^ to iSlinat (SLueriei. 



The Salutation Tavern (2"'* S. vi. 33.) — The 

 Salutation is still in existence. TIic proper sign 

 is the " Salutation and Cat," — a curious combi- 

 nation, but one which is explained by a lithograph, 

 which some five years ago hunt^ in the cofTee- 

 rooni, and was presented to the late proprietor by, 

 I believe, one of the Ackermauus. Au aged 



dandy is saluting a friend whom be has met in the 

 street, and offering him a pinch out of the snuff- 

 box which forms the top of his wood-like cane. 

 This box-nob was, it appears, called a " cat " — 

 hence the connexion of terms apparently so foreign 

 to each other. Some, not aware of this explana- 

 tion, have accounted for the sign by supposing a 

 tavern called " the Cat " was at some time pulled 

 down, and its trade carried to the Salutation, 

 whicli thenceforward joined the sign to its own ; 

 but this is improbable, seeing that we have never 

 heard of any tavern called " the Cat " (allhc^gh 

 we do know of " the Barking Dogs ") as a sign. 

 Neither does the Salutation take its name from 

 any scriptural or sacred source, as the Angel and 

 Trumpets, S)X. 



The late landlord preserved a tradition of the 

 house to tbe effect that Sir Christopher Wren 

 used to smoke his pipe there whilst St. Paul's was 

 in course of rebuilding. 



More positive evidence bad he to show of the 

 " little smoky room at the Salutation and Cat" * 

 where Coleridge and Charles Lamb sat smoking 

 Oronoko and drinking egg-hot f ; the first dis- 

 coursing of his idol, Bowles |, and the other rejoic- 

 ing mildly in Cowper and Burns, or both dream- 

 ing of " Pantisocracy, and golden days to come 

 on earth." § 



It is strange that the old tavern has been over- 

 looked by London topographers. Talfourd men- 

 tions it as "in the neighbourhood of Smithfield," 

 a very vague description. The quiet unassuming 

 entrance is No. 17. Newgate Street. 



Alexander Andrews. 



Ancient Jewish Coins (2°'* S. vi. 12.) — I am 

 afraid that D. I. D. L (p. 59.) is in error in sup- 

 posing that these were first coined about 143 B.C. 

 by Simeon, Prince of Judasa. It is a curious fact 

 that though the majority of the Jewish coins 

 known were formerly ascribed to Simon Macca- 

 bffius, there are none of them which, with our 

 present knowledge, can with any degree of cer- 

 tainty be attributed to him, as all the coins bear- 

 ing the name of Simon must be brought down 

 to the age of Barcochab, the leader of the revolt 

 of the Jews against Hadrian. There are, how- 

 ever, coins known of Jonathan and John Hyrca- 

 nus, the predecessor and successor of Simon 

 Maccabffius, so that the Jewish coinage certainly 

 bears date previous to the concession of the right 

 of coinage to Simon by Antiochus. M. do Sau- 

 lay, in his Rechei-ches sur la Numismatique Ju- 

 daique (Paris, 1854, 4to.),.i3 inclined to carry back 

 the earliest shekels to the pontificate of Jaddua, 

 a contemporary of Alexander the Great ; and 



* Lamb to Coleridge, Talfourd's Life and Letters of 

 Lamb, vol. i. pp. 14, 15. 



I Same to Same, llnd., pp. 41 — 43. 

 Same to Same, llnd., p. 54. 

 § Elia to Southey, London Magazine, October, 1823. 



