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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[2n'i S. VI. 139., Aug. 28. '58. 



accordingly on the 24th instant placed in a cart drawn 

 by six other 'neddies,' and a procession was formed, 

 headed by a pair of horses and a vehicle decorated with 

 evergreens and colours, and containing a brass band and 

 the hero, Ogan ; and after parading the principal streets 

 of the town returned to the Bird-iu-Hand, where, before 

 separating, they were entertained with an abundant sup- 

 plj' of good cheer." 



R. W. Hackwood. 



Brother of Simon Fraser, Lord Lovat (2"'^ S. v. 

 335.) — Rev. Wm. Fbaser, B.C.L., Alton, Staf- 

 fordsbire, requested information respecting the 

 family of Fraser of Lovat. 



The writer being much interested ia the clear- 

 ing up of the uncertainty existing on tlie points 

 mentioned by Mr. Fraser, has eagerly antici- 

 pated the reply of some well-informed correspon- 

 dent ; but, as no person has answered the queries, 

 and as the writer has attempted to investigate the 

 matter, and possesses some little, though very 

 uncertain information, he, in the absence of better, 

 has much pleasure in offering it, and earnestly 

 begs correction where wrong. 



The Fraser who killed the piper in a brawl was, 

 I believe, either the younger brother or eldest 

 son of Simon Lord Lovat, who was beheaded (I 

 invite correction), but, at all events, he, had not 

 Lord Lovat suffered attainder, was the heir to the 

 title and estates. 



He was generally supposed to have fled to 

 America, from whence claimants to the title, on 

 the attainder being reversed, induced by this tra- 

 dition, have appeared ; but no one has yet suc- 

 ceeded in producing the slightest evidence to prove 

 he did take refuge in America. 



Rev. Mr. Fraser says " he is said to have fled 

 Into Wales, and to have died there." May I ask 

 whence he derived this information? — because, 

 though having paid much attention to this point, 

 and personally acquainted with many members 

 of the Lovat family, I heard it only once be- 

 fore, in one family, which perhaps never men- 

 tioned it before, and never has since. 



This tradition states he fled into Glamorgan- 

 shire, and that after some years had elapsed he 

 called himself indiflerently Fraser and Lovat, by 

 way of maintaining a species of identity. He mar- 

 ried, and had issue, but whether any male I am 

 ignorant, but believe he had : however, one of his 



daughters espoused David Thomas, Gent., of 



Glynn-Nedd, Glamorgan, whose daughter by that 

 marriage was the grandmother of Major Hewett 

 of Tyr-Mab-EUis, Glamorgan {vide Burke's Dic-' 

 tionary of Landed Gentry^ 1858), who, together 

 with an old lady, a widow, whose name I forget, but ' 

 whose maiden name, I think, was Fraser, represents 

 this Fraser or Lovat (whether an impostor or 

 not), and who I believe possesses full and un- 

 doubted proofs of the whole affair, and, had she 

 been a male, of her right to the title. 



Major Hewett is a gentleman of great courtesy, 



and he would, T am sure, be happy to give names 

 and dates, and every information in his power to 

 Mr. Fraser. 



AVith respect to evidence of claimants' proceed- 

 ings, a namesake, Wm. Fraser, Esq., W. S., 4L 

 Albany Street, Edinburgh, an amateur genealo- 

 gist, will, I am sure, on application, afford all in- 

 formation. RffiDO Illtjd. 



Lotus, 8i-c. (2°* S. iv. _195.22L;_v. 138.)— In 

 looking over the Egyptian-rooms in the British 

 Museum a few days ago, I was njuch struck with 

 the offering to Osiris, which consists of a T shaped 

 altar, in which is placed a cake of a roundish form, 

 while the Lotus-flower and stalk curve over the 

 other two. This seems as if it might bear upon 

 the questio vexata of the lotus and cake of India. 



It may be an accidental coincidence, but it is a 

 singular one, that I have seen the lotus and circle 

 represented at the summit of every division of a 

 curved ivory Chinese fan (Buddhist) ; and I am 

 told that among the Mahommedans the same form 

 bears the name of the Prophet's fingers, and also 

 at the same time resembles in a most striking 

 manner the Ordnance mark, the so-called level 

 and broad arrow, which we behold scattered all 

 over England, from Cornhill to Cornwall ; while 

 the little roadside plant, the bird's-foot trefoil, also 

 gives this name, and bears the name of lotus. 

 May not this likewise constitute the charm of 

 " the five-leaved shamrock ? " I should feel greatly 

 obliged if any of your readers can throw any light 

 on these curious coincidences. Might not this 

 universal sign be made use of in engendering feel- 

 ings of brotherhood between ourselves, Hindoos, 

 Buddhists, and Mahommedans ? W. Tell. 



Towcester. 



" An Assailant of the Mathematical Sciences " 

 (2"'^ S. vi. 125.) — Professor De Morgan at this 

 reference tells us of 



" An assailant of the mathematical sciences of no mean 

 name, who was so little versed in the meaning of the most 

 elementary terms that, in an attempt of his own to be ma- 

 thematical, he first declares two quantities to be one and the 

 same quantity, and then proceeds to state that of these two 

 identical quantities the greater the one, the less is the other." 



I do not say the case is incredible : but it is so 

 extraordinary that I should be personally obliged 

 to him if he would give me the name of the as- 

 sailant in question, and a reference to that work 

 in which this strange contradiction occurs. 



C. Mansfield Inglebt. 



Dryderis Lines on Milton (2"* S. iv. 368.) — I 

 have an old note which confirms I. Y.'s opinion ; 

 but at the same time shows that Dryden was a 

 borrower from Salvaggi, who wrote thus : — 



" Groicia Majonideni, jaotet sibi Roma Maronem; 

 Anglia Miltonum jactat utrique parem." 



Ebic. 



Yille Marie, Canada. 



