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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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gate used by me was printed in 1566. Perhaps 

 some of your correspondents will kindly enlighten 

 me on the points I have mentioned. 



C. Le Poer Kennedy. 

 St. Albans. 



[We have been favoured with the following remarks 

 on this Query, from George Offor, Esq. : — " Mr. 

 Kennedy's Query raises four interesting questions ; and 

 until you obtain some better answer, I beg leave to submit 

 the following: 1. Why the words quoted by Luther are part 

 of the 29th Psalm in the Septuagiut and Vulgate versions, 

 and of the 30th according to the original Hebrew ? The 

 numbering of the psalms is not of antient date: they 

 were formerly distinguished in Latin by the first two 

 words: thus the first Psalm was called " Beatus Vir," 

 the 150th " Laudato Dominum in Sanctis." The Jews 

 hive ever kept the Psalms as originally divided: but 

 the scribe who numbered them in the Septuagint, which 

 was followed by the Latin, united the ninth and tenth 

 Psalms, and numbered them Psalm ix. ; so that Psalm 

 xi. became x. This series was continued to Ps. cxiv., 

 which was joined to the cxvth. This would have brought 

 the remaining numbers right, but the next psalms, 

 cxiiii. and cxv. are united, so that cxix. is called the 

 cxviiith ; but on arriving at cxlvii. it was divided into 

 two, and this made the whole number cl. Thus the first 

 eight and the last three are numbered alike, in Hebrew, 

 Greek, and Latin ; but to all the other psalms a unit 

 must be added to the Septuagint and Vulgate numbeis 

 to make the psalms correspond with the Hebrew and 

 English notation. How these discrepancies crept in is 

 hid in the dark ages. The psalter has alwa3 r s been read 

 in divine service; and when once these variations had 

 been adopted, they were in all probability continued, to 

 prevent awkward inquiries. 



2nd. The variation in verses is of more modern date. 

 The first portion of holy writ which I possess divided 

 into verses is Luther's penitential psalms, printed at 

 Strasburg 1519. Then follow the English Psalter and 

 New Testament of Geneva, 1557. The paragraphs in 

 the psalter are numbered as verses. In doing this the 

 sentences 5 and 6 in Ps xxix. xxx. might with great 

 propriety be united or numbered separately at the discre- 

 tion of l he editor either of the Greek or Latin versions 



3rd. Why in some editions this psalm begins with 

 verse 2? Where that is the case, verse 1. is the title to 

 the Psalm, which is usually not numbered. In Grabe's 

 edition of the Septuagint, 8vo. Oxon, 1707, it is numbered 

 as verse 1.; but in Reineccius, Lipsia?, 1757, the title is 

 not numbered, and the 1st verse begins 'Vi/ni™ <r<- Kvpie. 



4. What English version did the translator quote from ? 

 Our early translators of such books, even to the begin- 

 ning of the seventeenth century, did not limit themselves 

 to any standard text, but translated the quotations from 

 the text of their author. In fact, until the Common- 

 wealth, the Genevan 1560, and the Bishops of 1568 were 

 printed in competition, by the same authorised printer. 

 Even after our present authorised version in 1611 the 

 Genevan was a favourite with the Puritans, notwith- 

 standing the efforts of the Star Chamber to prevent its 

 circulation. Till after that time the country had no stan- 

 dard translation of the Bible. — Geougk. Offor."] 



Comngsby's "Marden." — In 1722-27, Thomas 

 Earl of Coningsby privately printed in folio Col- 

 lections concerning the Manor of Marden, Here- 

 fordshire. I should be much obliged if any reader 

 of " N. & Q." would inform me of a copy of this 

 wok deposited in any public library, and also 



whether Marden claims to be ancient demesne, 

 and to enjoy the privileges annexed thereto ? 



E. G.R. 



[These Collections of die Manor of Marden are in the 

 British Museum, entered in the Catalogue under Mar- 

 den, press mark 794. k. 3. At p. 3, it is slated, that 

 ."Marden being in | the King's hands when Domesday 

 was composed, becomes what the lawyers have since 

 styled ancient demesne, and as such is intituled to several 

 franchises and immunities;" in proof of which the 

 writer gives a quotation from Dugdale's Origines Ju- 

 ridicia/es. ] 



Cromwell's Interview with Lady Ingilby. 



— In Hargrove's History of Knaresborough there 

 is a long anecdote told, to the effect that after the 

 battle ot'Marston Moor, which was fought on the 

 2nd July, 1644, Cromwell proceeded to Ripley 

 Castle, about fifteen miles from the batile-field. 

 Sir William Ingilby, the owner, was absent, it is 

 said, but ihis lady met Oliver 



"At the gate of the lodge, with a pair of pistols stuck in 

 her apron-strings; and having told him she expected 

 that neither he nor his soldiers would behave improperly, 

 led the way to the hall; where, sitting each on a sopha, 

 these two extraordinary personages, equally jealous of 

 ench other's intentions, passed the whole night." 



I should like to know the auihority for this 

 story; for, if true, it is a very interesting incident 

 in the history of that memorable fight. According 

 to the pedigree in Thoresby's Ducatus, which, in- 

 deed, is very confused, there was no Lady Ingilby 

 living at the time, Sir William's lady having died 

 in" 1640, and it does not appear that he married 

 again. Is it known that Cromwell was elsewhere 

 at the time ? Were sofas in use then ? E. S. 



[We trust some of our readers will shortly be able to 

 confirm the above anecdote relating to Cromwell and the 

 Lady Anne Ingilby (or Ingleby), the wife of Sir Wm. In- 

 gleby cf Ripley, in tiie county of York. In the interim, 

 we can refer our correspondent E. S. to an equally curious 

 passage in Mercurius Pragmaticus for July 18th to 25th, 

 1648, which doubtless relates'to the warlike lady in ques- 

 tion : — 



" Will Waller and the Lady Anne 

 Their pilgrim race have run ; 

 Ned Massy, too, that mighty man, 

 (God bless us from a gun !) 



" O welcome home, yee worthies three, 

 More worthy than the Nine; 

 Yee dapper Squires of Chevalrie, 

 Let not the Cause now pine. 



" And you, stout Madam, Mars his bride, 

 At this dead lift * we misse you; 

 Once more your valiant Knight bestride, 

 And th' men of God shall kisse you. 



"You and sweet William now march forth, 

 And leap both hedge and ditches: 

 The Mcirbers, if you'll have the North, 

 Shall vote you into breeches." 



[* Alluding to the conduct of the Scotch, who had then 

 recently sold King Charles to the parliament.] 



