240 ARGUMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. 



laws of the State of New Jersey, of which corporation the deponent is 

 president. He entirely agrees with what Mr. Phelan says concerning 

 his experience in the handling and dressing of skins, and from what 

 he knows of his character and ability he believes that everything 

 stated by him in his affidavit is correct. 



Henry Treadwell (ibid., p. 524), at the time of testifying, was 70 years 

 of age and resided in the city of Brooklyn, in the State of New York. 

 He was a member of the firm of Treadwell & Company, which had been 

 dealing in furs since 1S32; they bought, dressed and dyed annually 

 from 5,000 to 8,000 skins. Mr. Treadwell was very emphatic in his 

 statement that the skins of the three catches are readily distinguish- 

 able. He stated that he would be able, himself, on an examination of 

 the skins as they are taken from the barrels, to detect at once in a 

 barrel of Alaska skins the skins of either the Copper or the northwest- 

 ern catch. 



William H. Williams (ibid., p. 03) is a citizen of the United States, 

 residing at Wellington, Ohio, and was at the time of testifying the 

 United States Treasury Agent in the charge of the seal islands in 

 Bering Sea. As such and in pursuance of Department instructions, 

 he made a careful examination of the habits and conditions of the 

 seals and seal rookeries, with a view of reporting to the Department 

 his observations. He says, agreeing in this with the numerous other 

 witnesses whose testimony is above given, that the skins of the three 

 catches are readily distinguishable from each other. He also states 

 that the differences are clearly evinced in the prices which have 

 always been obtained for the sealskins of the three catches. For in- 

 stance, the skins of the Alaska catch were then commanding 20 or 30 

 per cent better prices than the skins of the Copper catch. This differ- 

 ence is also recognized by the Russian Government, who leased the 

 privilege of catching upon the Commander Islands upon terms 25 per 

 cent less than the terms of the United States for the leased catch upon 

 the Pribilof Islands. 



Mr. Maurice Windmiller (ibid., p. 550) was a furrier doing business 

 in San Francisco, in which business he had been engaged all his life, 

 his father having been a furrier before him. He was 40 years of age 

 and claimed to be an expert in dressed and undressed, raw and made- 

 up furs, and a manufacturer and dealer in the same. He was also of 

 opinion that the Russian seal belonged to an entirely different herd 

 from those of the American side, and testified that their skins had 

 such peculiar characteristics that it was not difficult to separate them. 



