44 BULLETIN OF THE BUREAU OF FISHERIES. 
Doctor Hoek has favored the piscicultural world, is so full of real worth that it 
would have been a pity to omit any part of it. 
I have no doubt there are some present who have some questions to ask. 
Now will be the opportunity for any comments or questions, but I must warn 
the congress that the observations must be very brief. ‘ 
[The paper was briefly discussed by Prof. E. E. Prince and Doctor Hoek, 
whose remarks appear on page 829.] 
Vice-President Prince. Gentlemen, as the time is passing rapidly and 
there seem to be no questions on this paper of Doctor Hoek, although we 
appreciate it very much as a valuable paper and record of personal observations, 
we shall proceed to the next, by Mr. W. S. Kincaid, who is to read a paper on 
‘“‘New Methods of Transporting Eggs and Fish.’”’ Is Mr. Kincaid present? 
[No response.] In the absence of Mr. Kincaid, we shall have to proceed to 
the next paper. The secretary-general will read a paper by Professor Matsubara. 
The SECRETARY-GENERAL. Mr. President and gentlemen, this paper by 
Prof. S. Matsubara, on ‘‘Goldfish and Their Culture in Japan,” is of great 
interest to many people, but I do not know that we have the time or opportunity 
to read it in extenso. I should certainly like to call attention to the contents of 
the paper and exhibit some of the admirable colored paintings which accompany 
it. Professor Matsubara is the Director of the Imperial Fisheries Institute at 
Tokyo, Japan, and, as we know, the goldfish receives more attention in Japan 
than in any other country. 
[The paper was then read in abstract, and will be found in full on pages 
381-397- 
President Bumpus at this point resumed the chair.] 
The PRESIDENT. This paper is open for discussion. We have an interesting 
paper by Professor Prince on the ‘‘ Training and Qualifications of the Modern 
Fish Culturist.”’ 
I am sure no one has been more surprised than I, during this afternoon’s 
session in particular, at the amount of accurate information that seems to be 
on hand among the men who are connected with the various fish hatcheries of 
the country. I wonder where it is possible to find such men. I sat here wonder- 
ing that the United States Government can succeed in getting these perfectly 
splendid men—men who are specialists, that do this work so well and know it 
in all its branches and ramifications. Now, I imagine, although I have not seen 
the paper that is about to be presented, that there is a plan for the direct training 
of such individuals. 
Prof. Epwarp E. Prince. Mr. President and gentlemen, I fully agree 
with the words which you have just expressed in regard to the gentlemen who 
have appeared before us to-day, who are the practical fish culturists. What 
I have to bring before you will occupy only five or six minutes, because I 
