ORAL ARGUMENT OF FREDERICK R. COUDERT, ESQ. 383 



The Tribunal wil] observe that iu 1891 the figures are given as 62,500. 

 A moment ago I gave some figures for that year of 28,888, but that was 

 only Behriug Sea we then spoke of : the total catch being 02,500, leaving 

 still open the question that Sir Charles Eussell suggested a moment ago, 

 that some or many or few were taken from the Russian side. 



The President. — The British table that has been mentioned, on 

 page 207 of the British Commissioners Report, gives the total for 1891 

 as 08,000. 



Mr. CouDERT, — Which makes it still stronger. 



The President. — Their figures are stronger than yours 1 



Mr. CouDERT. — Yes sir. We are satisfied to take either of those 

 figures. 



Sir Charles Russell. — Our partial Commissioners! 



Mr. Coudert. — They may make a mistake on the side of right, of 

 course. Anybody might. 



Mr. Justice Harlan. — The diiference, perhaps, is explained by the 

 fact that the British table approximates the catch of both Canadian 

 and United States vessels, whereas m your table the Canadian catch 

 only is given, and the United States catch is not given. 



Mr. Coudert. — Then I take back what I said. The tribute to the 

 British Commissioners is undeserved. 



Sir Charles Russell. — It includes the United States catch except 

 that portion which is sold in California. 



Mr. Justice Harlan. — To which table do you refer? 



Sir Charles Russell. — The table on page 366, which has been 

 referred to. The catch of American vessels sold in Sau Francisco is 

 not included. That is the only thing that is excluded. 



The President. — I think we can agree by this comparison that 

 both tables have been drawn out very fairly, and with great credit to 

 both parties. 



Mr. Coudert. — I hope the Tribunal, notwithstanding my desire to 

 acquiesce, will not hold me^ as endorsing the opinion that the tables pre- 

 pared by our friends on th*e other side are impartially drawn, for I do 

 not believe they are. 



The President. — We know your oi)inion about the British Commis- 

 sioners, and perhaps we had better leave that. 



Mr. Coudert. — When I find fault with what the Commissioners 

 aver, I hope I need not repeat what I have said before, that these gen- 

 tlemen, of course, are incapable of making a misstatenient: and when 

 they tell us what they saw or Avhat they did, we accept their assurance 

 without the slightest hesitation; but I think it was one of your fellow- 

 diplomats, Mr. President, who said: "Give me a pen and figures, and I 

 will prove what you like". That is true in diplomacy, and it is true in 

 Commissions also. 



The President. — I think, Mr. Coudert, you can show that it is not 

 necessary for you to have a pen and ink for that. 



The Tribunal here adjourned until Tuesday, May 9, 1803, at 11.30 

 o'clock A. M. 



