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by this Society at this time, if we have not had one in the past, might 

 be a step in the right direction. I think that the subject is a very im- 

 portant one. 



Mr. William H. Rowe, West Buxton, Me. : I am using in my 

 hatchery some 75 tons of feed a year. On the strength of what Profes- 

 sor Embody said in his paper two years ago, I wrote to the firm that 

 manufactures shrimp meal, but got no satisfactory reply and have never 

 been able to get any of the meal. 



Mr. Radcliffe: We have lists of producers of shrimp meal, and we 

 are assured that they will take up actively its manufacture if they can 

 be sure of a market for the product. I think that in the solution of 

 these problems the services of trained technologists are necessary. 



Professor Cobb: Professor Embody informs me that he intends 

 to carry on extensive experiments in the feeding of fish. I may say 

 that in one of our private hatcheries out west the fish are fed with 

 ice cream cones broken up so as to float on the surface of the water. 

 Of course, the diet is occasionally varied with liver, but this hatchery 

 man said that they did very well on ice cream cones, one of the cheap- 

 est foods he found. Some of you might try that, along with fish meal 

 or shrimp meal or anything of that kind ; they ought to go well together. 



Mr. Titcomb: I want to bring up one more point in this connection. 

 Men cannot afford to buy ice cream cones or any other food that they 

 know nothing about, feed their live stock on it for three or four months, 

 and then have them all die on their hands. They are carrying on a 

 live stock proposition and they know that they can pursue certain lines 

 and carry their fish through to a marketable size ; they do not know 

 what may happen if they feed something else. We have heard a good 

 many of these stories about cereals and all kinds of foods, but the 

 commercial fish culturist cannot take chances on a live stock proposi- 

 tion in the carrying on of experimental work. Experimental work of 

 general public importance should be done by the Federal Government. 

 The very best fish culturists, scientists, and pathologists should be en- 

 gaged in the work. 



Mr. Rowe: I have been told that macaroni is good food for fish. 

 Reference has just been made to ice cream cones along the same line. 

 Now, Professoi^ Embody told me that there was absolutely no food value 

 in bran cereals for fish ; that no growth could be secured from the use 

 of these things. Mr. Chamberlain, who carried on the experiments for 

 Professor Embody, worked with me during one summer season, and he 

 also stated that cereals were of no use as food for fish ; that all they 

 were good for was simply to hold the other articles together. 



Mr. Radcliffe: This fish meal need not necessarily be a finely 

 ground material. Do not think that because you get it finely ground that 

 it is the only way in which it can be produced. It can be manufactured 

 to suit your particular needs. 



Mr. J. A. Williams, Tallahassee, Fla. : I may say that if any fish 

 culturist here is desirous of getting in touch with the shrimp-meal 



