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each month to clarify the water in order to make a good paper, where 

 somebody else has polluted the water above them; and then they run 

 their refuse into the stream for the next man below to clean. 



Now, I think if these manufacturers all get together there could 

 be some definite plan worked out which would be successful ; for the 

 money that they are using today for clarifying this water would be 

 spent in the effort to keep this pollution out; and then some results 

 will be obtained. 



Pennsylvania is working along those lines ; and while it is a long- 

 drawn-out question, I believe the time is coming when our streams will 

 be purer by far than at present ; but it will not be done in the course 

 of six months or a year. 



With respect to the matter of running off sand and waste from 

 quarries that is a subject entirely taken up by a commission, called 

 the Water Supply Commission; and a great many specific complaints 

 that come to the Department of Fisheries on that line are turned over 

 to them and given attention by that commission. 



These are the efforts that are being put forth in my state looking 

 towards securing the purification of the streams. 



Mr. Ernest Schaeffle, San Francisco : Has any one found a way 

 of handling paper mill refuse? We have had trouble with a mill at 

 Floriston near the Nevada line. The only way we can think of is to 

 shut down the paper mill, representing an investment of a million 

 dollars, with a pay-roll supporting the entire district. Has any one 

 any remedy to suggest for a problem of that kind? 



Mr. Cranston : In Oregon City there is a paper mill having vats 

 discharging into the Williamette River. It is a great nuisance. But 

 we have secured the installation of a large settling tank for this pulp 

 waste, and we have thus got around a good deal of the trouble. It 

 has not entirely cured it, but has improved the condition perceptibly. 



Mr. Schaeffle: That is in a place where they have room for 

 settling vats. This mill is in a deep canon and there is no room to 

 settle anything. 



Mr. Buller: Are your paper mills sulphite or soda? 



Mr. Schaeffle: Sulphite. 



Mr. Buller: In several paper mills that I have gone over they 

 are using large sedimentation beds to precipitate the lime and soda ; 

 and a great deal of their refuse is burnt up by being run through a 

 hot retort. 



Mr. Schaeffle : That is evidently a pulp mill. 



Mr. Buller: I have found that 90% of all these manufacturers 

 are perfectly willing to take care of this refuse if they are shown a 

 way how. But to gain results we must first get some definite plan to 

 work upon. 



Mr. Schaeffle: These people will spend any amount of money, 

 if I can tell them what to do. 



