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Ottawa River, emptying into Maumee Bay, in Michigan. Thirty years 

 ago there was an old sawmill within four miles of the city limits. I 

 was there every single Saturday for my health and to fish. That is 

 where I got my reputation of being a truthful angler. I never caught 

 so many large-mouth black bass and pike as I did where the sawdust 

 came from the sawmill, and I always had success for 25 years. This 

 last summer I was at Beulah, Ohio, along Crystal Creek ; I will not stop 

 to tell you about the black bass I caught in Crystal Creek, because they 

 are beyond the size Mr. Clark and you are accustomed to catch. But 

 a mile from Beulah there is a man who owns a sawmill and a trout 

 pond; he charges a dollar a day to fish in that pond. All around 

 the edge of the trout pond there is sawdust. But I never caught so 

 many trout in my life as I did in that pond. I never fished there in my 

 life without having to stop and look at the law so that I would not 

 exceed the legal allowance. (Laughter.) 



President: If there was any doubt about Mr. Gunckel's reputation 

 being fully established, it has been entirely removed. (Laughter.) 



Mr. Gunckel : The reason I asked if you wanted an affidavit is 

 because Dr. Bean is not here. If he were here, he would confirm what- 

 ever I say. (Laughter.) 



Mr. Evans : My reason for endeavoring to have the members of 

 the Society give an expression on this point is a serious one. On the 

 7th of October the policy of using the Nipigon as a lumber-driving 

 stream or not will be decided. It is undoubtedly the finest trout river 

 in the world. I am going to ask the President of the Society if he 

 will be good enough to arrange that all remarks made upon this ques- 

 tion of lumber operations and sawdust in trout streams be furnished 

 to me in typewriting so that I can present them to the cabinet before 

 this decision is made on the 7th of October. Therefore I trust that 

 any commissioners present who have any views to give on this question 

 of lumbering operations and their effect on trout streams will kindly 

 give them. It is the last great unspoiled river on the continent that I 

 know of ; and I would like to get an expression of opinion as to the 

 matter. 



Mr. Dwight Lydell, Comstock Park, Mich : I think the Muskegon 

 River in Michigan used to be one of the greatest lumbering streams in 

 the United States and today it is one of. the best trout and bass streams 

 in the State of Michigan. As far as bass are concerned, they were 

 introduced there six years ago and are being caught by the hun- 

 dred. The lumbering has been done away with. I believe the last drive 

 was four years ago. The amount of bark, sawdust, etc., dumped into 

 the river was enormous before this, but it has had no effect on the fish 

 there of today. 



Mr. Meehan : The mere fact that fish are present where there is 

 deleterious material does not indicate that that material is not injurious 

 to the fish. It is quite a common occurrence to find an abundance of 

 fish, of a certain kind, occasionally even trout, close to waters polluted 

 by tannery waste; and I very frequently have manufacturers, tanners 



