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The President: Not over eight or ten hours; an average 

 shipment is about six hours. Then we have shipped in the Land 

 patent can. All railroads transfer our messengers and our fish 

 free, but in making our shipments it takes more help than the 

 State will wrrant. We use the Land patent cans, put them on 

 board in '^'narge of the baggage master, and sometimes they 

 change cars at three or four junctions to get around the State. 

 We do ^'ot hesitate to ship in that patent can in baggage cars for 

 trips o' .''^ix to ten hours without any messenger whatever, and 

 we ha'-'e never lost a fish. 



Mr. Ravenel : We have sent rainbow trout througli the 

 south in the fall, temperature about 52, with practically no loss. 



The President : You don't put the temperature down as 

 low on rainbow trout as speckled trout? 



Mr. Ravenel : Xo. 



The President: We sent out this spring shipments of trout 

 for the United States Fish Commission that started at midnight 

 and were on the road all the next day until the next afternoon 

 about 4 o'clock, ^ly messenger took care of them all that time 

 without loss during the trip. 



Mr. Clark: It seems to me that great stress is laid upon 

 the use of ice around the can, but nothing has been sakl about 

 putting the ice in the can where the fish are. I don't have much 

 practical experience in carrying fish now, ])Ut 1 used to. I have 

 used ice in the cans with the fish for twenty-five years, ima tnei^^ 

 is no objection to it. If your fish are in good condition and well 

 taken care of, and all right, they will get down l^elow the ice and 

 stay there, so that your ice may just as well go in the water. The 

 can that Mr. Wood has is something similar to what has been 

 tried before, and is a good thing, but tliere is certainly no objec- 

 tic:)n to having your ice in the water. You all lay great stress in 

 having your ice melting and the water dripping in and not com- 

 ing in contact with the fish. 



Mr. Wood : W^e never hesitate to put a piece of ice in the 

 can when necessary, but in starting if we put all the ice in the 



