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I'm pleased to say that we have been able to exceed the lower end of the 

 scale, the 2 percent to 4 percent of CRV for maintenance and repair for these 

 activities. 



Through utilizing the most efficient maintenance methods and procedures 

 that we can come up with and concentrating heavily on preventive mainte- 

 nance and predictive maintenance, we hope to continue these improvements. 



That concludes my summary, Mr. Chairman. I would be pleased to answer 

 any question that you or the other members may have. 



[The prepared statement of Gen. McGarvey starts on p.91 of Submissions 

 for the Record:] 



Senator Sarbanes. Well, thank you very much. General McGarvey. 



Dr. Martino, my Republican colleagues on the panel wish to have you here 

 as a witness, and we are pleased to have you. 



HATEMENT OF JOSEPH MARTINO, SENIOR RESEARCH SCIENTIST, 

 UNIVERSITY OF DAYTON RESEARCH INHITUTE 



Dr. Martino. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the chance to be 

 here. I have a prepared statement which I will leave and request be entered 

 into the record. 



Senator Sarbanes. The full statements of all the witnesses will be included 

 in the record and I appreciate the fact that each of the witnesses has been 

 summarizing the main points of their testimony. 



Dr. Martino. I will present a summary. I should preface my remarks that I 

 am a research scientist at the University of Dayton Research Institute. My 

 statements do not necessarily represent the views of my employer. 



My background includes service in government laboratories and in a uni- 

 versity research institute, as well as scholarly research on the management of 

 research and development. 



I am currendy the principal investigator on a contract between the univer- 

 sity and the State of Ohio to find ways to commercialize the Mound Facility, 

 a Department of Energy facility located near Dayton. 



The General Accounting Office has documented the poor condition of 

 many federal laboratories. This is being presented as a need to repair and up- 

 grade these laboratories. 



I wish to follow up on the GAO suggestion that instead the missions be re- 

 considered, and, where appropriate, these laboratories be closed rather than 

 upgraded. 



My remarks today will cover four main points: 



First, one risk associated with federal labs is that they will become medio- 

 cre through pork barrel funding; the second risk is that they will become an 

 unwarranted subsidy to specific industries; third, if a federal lab is to serve the 

 needs of industry effectively, it must be privatized; and fourth, this is not the 

 first time that we have faced the issue of what to do with no longer needed 

 federal labs. 



I will illustrate each of these points with examples. 



The Department of Agriculture is probably the prize example of mediocre 

 science in the Federal Government. Its R&D funding is distributed according 

 to a political formula, rather than according to the economic importance and 

 the scientific merit of the research. 



