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a final answer to your question. As I say, well want to look at it 

 and respond in a coherent fashion to the proposal. 



Ms. McKlNNEY. Tell me about your farmer-to-former program. 

 Where is it operating other than in Russia? 



Mr. Kauzlarich. Perhaps my colleagues from USDA know. I be- 

 Heve in Armenia. Oh, almost every Republic in the former Soviet 

 Union. I would guess in Tadzhik and some of the more problematic 

 areas as far as civil disturbances, they would not be operating, or 

 in Azerbaijan, because of the limitations imposed by the Freedom 

 Support Act on United States assistance activities there. 



Ms. McKIlNNEY. Is that a program only for Russia and the other 

 independent states? 



Mr. Kauzlarich. I think the program is in Eastern Europe as 

 well. It's a worldwide progremi, but I'm talking in terms of this re- 

 cent manifestation of the program. I think over the years we've al- 

 ways had some degree of farmer-to-farmer exchange in our foreign 

 aid efforts, but in the last several years we've established it in 

 Eastern Europe, and then about a year ago took steps to set up a 

 very aggressive program in Russia and the other Republics. 



Ms. McKiNNEY. What about the Western Hemisphere and Afri- 

 ca? 



Mr. Kauzlarich. What I'd like to do is perhaps provide to your 

 office in writing a more detailed response, because you're getting 

 into areas which I'm just not familiar with. But I do understand 

 that it does operate in many developing countries, including Latin 

 America 



Mr. Penny. We will have a witness from VOCA tomorrow. Not 

 that they're the only entity that handles these farmer-to-farmer 

 programs, but they have been one of the key agencies or organiza- 

 tions in terms of distributing this type of aid around the world, and 

 we can maybe get some answer then. But if not, we'll certainly 



Mr. Kauzlarich. Well, we can try to provide more details. 



Ms. McKlNNEY. That would be very helpful. Finally, could you 

 just give me a ballpark figure of the total amount of United States 

 dollars that are going to assist Russia and the independent states 

 as far as agriculture is concerned? 



Mr. Kauzlarich. Well, if you look at it in terms of technical as- 

 sistance, we've committed $100 million over a 3-year period for all 

 of the newly independent states. In fiscal year 1992 we provided 

 around $368 million in food assistance to those states. This in- 

 volved $271 million in USDA food aid, $62 million in Department 

 of Defense excess stock donations, and $35 million in private dona- 

 tions. 



So far this year, fiscal year 1993, as I mentioned in my testi- 

 mony, USDA has signed agreements with eight of the newly inde- 

 pendent states for $377 million in food aid. There are other agree- 

 ments also being negotiated, I would add. But in addition to that, 

 we expect to provide about $40 million in excess DOD stock dona- 

 tions and about $40 million in private donations. But, again, that's 

 just up to this point in this fiscal year. 



Ms. McKlNNEY. Thank you. 



Mr. Penny. I have one last question before we move on to our 

 next panelist. You mentioned that the idea of monetization was en- 



