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would bring because, quite possibly, much of that timber could not 

 be cut. 



There will be a cost. And I believe that, in summary, Americans 

 are willing to make the investment in this resource. As those of you 

 on this subcommittee know, the Forest Service is quite capable of 

 managing our timber lands with more in mind than just maximiz- 

 ing the amount cut. They are used to thinking of timber as a re- 

 newable source and responding to values other than a quick profit. 



There should be some finished revenue to the U.S. Government 

 over the years if this timber is put on a sustained yield manage- 

 ment basis and of course this subcommittee knows far more about 

 that than do I. 



The legislation does have broad support and I think that the sup- 

 port for it will grow when it is clearly defined that this is a ques- 

 tion of preserving 1,000-year-old virgin redwoods as opposed to try- 

 ing to further the greedy acquisition of other corporate trophies for 

 a company whose record casts some gloom on the good record of 

 other corporate Americ£in citizens. 



Thank you. 



[The prepared statement of Mr. Stark appears at the conclusion 

 of the hearing.] 



Mr. Baesler. Thank you. Anybody have any questions? If you all 

 care to join us, you are welcome in case you want to ask some ques- 

 tions of somebody else who might want to testify. 



Mr. HLamburg. I would like to join you on the panel. 



Mr. Baesler. Come right on up. 



The next panel, Mr. George M. Leonard, Associate Chief of the 

 Forest Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture. He is accompanied 

 by Dr. C. John Ralph, and also Mr. Phil Detrich. 



Mr. Leonard, we are going to have you take over. 



STATEMENT OF GEORGE M. LEONARD, ASSOCIATE CHIEF, 

 FOREST SERVICE, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, AC- 

 COMPANIED BY C. JOHN RALPH, PACIFIC SOUTHWEST RE- 

 SEARCH STATION; PAUL B. TITTMAN, CHIEF APPRAISER; 

 AND PHIL DETRICH, FOREST SPECIES SPECIALIST, U.S. FISH 

 AND WILDLIFE SERVICE, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE INTE- 

 RIOR 



Mr. Leonard. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will just summarize 

 my statement. The Department of Agriculture supports the goals 

 and objectives of H.R. 2866 and is interested in working with the 

 Congress to find ways to acquire this property. However, there are 

 serious cost issues associated with the bill as currently drafted. The 

 administration is willing to work to negotiate with the involved 

 parties to see if the objectives of the bill can be achieved. 



H.R. 2866 would adjust the boundaries of the Six Rivers National 

 Forest to include approximately 44,000 acres of private timberlands 

 belonging to Pacific Lumber Company. The timberlands are red- 

 wood forest on productive growing sites. Approximately 3,100 acres 

 of old-growth redwoods called the Headwaters Forest are included 

 on these private lands. 



The area to be acquired under H.R. 2866 has excellent natural 

 resource attributes. Habitats for a variety of sensitive, threatened, 

 and endangered wildlife species are provided by these Pacific Lum- 



