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Mr. Campbell, page 3 of this bill, section 4, says the following: 

 "The remaining unprotected stands of old growth forest and old- 

 growth redwoods are under immediate threat of being harvested 

 without regard to their ecological importance and without following 

 Federal timber harvest guidelines." 



Do you stipulate to that? 



Mr. Campbell. No. I don't believe that is true. Everjrthing we do 

 on our property has gone through the regulatory process and we 

 have the appropriate approvals. 



Mr. DOOLITTLE. Could you describe the regulatory process? Can 

 you just go out and cut any bunch of trees that you feel like cutting 

 or is there some requirement for approval from some level of gov- 

 ernment? 



Mr. Campbell. No. As I said earlier, all of the lands on our prop- 

 erty are zoned by the State for timber production under the Forest 

 Practice Act of 1970 and then the following legislation, the Timber 

 Productivity Act of 1982, the landowner is required to file what is 

 known as a timber harvest plan. Timber harvest plans have to be 

 developed by a licensed professional forester who has to pass a rig- 

 orous exam to get his license and his license can be revoked if in 

 fact his actions have an adverse impact on the environment. 



This plan is submitted to the California Department of Forestry 

 who is the lead agent and then other agents of the California State 

 government, be it fish and game, water quality, CalTrans, beaches 

 and parks, all get an opportunity to comment on the plan and the 

 lead agent considers all of that input and then rules whether or not 

 the plan is to be approved. 



They go through quite a long, involved process. At the end of 

 that approval period, there is a 30-day window for the public to liti- 

 gate the plan if they feel that it is inappropriate. 



Mr. DOOLITTLE. So before you cut any tree, you have to have this 

 process completed and have an approved plan? 



Mr. Campbell. That is correct. 



As a matter of fact, if you go back in the process when you sub- 

 mit the plan, when the Government accepts the plan, the plan has 

 to be known as what is called complete in every way before they 

 will even consider it. 



Mr. DOOLITTLE. The photograph that was displayed here, did you 

 see that? 



Mr. Campbell. No, I did not. 



Mr. DOOLITTLE. An inquiry of the Chair. 



Mr, Chairman, is that photograph to be a part of the record or 

 file? There is testimony concerning it, but how does that work? 



Mr. Hamburg. I haven't formally requested that it be entered 

 into the record, but it is actually — hold on just a second. That is 

 a photo that belongs to the U.S. Forest Service and with their con- 

 currence, we could hold it in the file. 



Mr. Pomeroy. I am informed it is likely that the permanent 

 Chair will seek a copy to include in the file. 



Mr. DOOLITTLE. I think it should be. 



Let me inquire of the Chair and the author of the bill, was that 

 of this Owl Creek area that we have heard about? 



Mr. Hamburg. No, the majority of that aerial photograph, Mr. 

 Doolittle, is of the 4,500 acres, although if you remember the photo 



