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Senator Stevens. And there has been no such entry yet, but it 

 could happen at any time, and then you will face a different cir- 

 cumstance. 



Ambassador Colson. Yes, sir. And it would really detract from 

 a cooperative relationship that we have with the Russians on a lot 

 of issues of great importance to us. It is a matter that in both the 

 last two summit meetings, both President Clinton and, previously. 

 President Bush, with President Yeltsin brought this up. 



This is a very important issue for the Russians, and it is an area 

 that we have a real potential for cooperating. We will be taking a 

 delegation to Russia before the summit. And if we had something 

 that we could work with there, this could even become a theme for 

 the summit at the end of September. 



Senator Stevens. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 



Senator Kerry. Thank you very much, Senator. 



Thank you, gentlemen, very much. We will leave the record open 

 if we have any additional questions to submit to you. I really ap- 

 preciate your testimony this morning. 



Thank you. 



If I could ask the second panel to come forward right away. 



Let me just say before you leave, Ambassador, that we are going 

 to include the implementing language on the flagging agreement in 

 the Magnuson bill. So, we will try to move that along as fast as 

 we can. And I understand Senator Mitchell will have some ques- 

 tions on NAFO. 



Thank you. 



Ambassador CoLSON. Thank you. 



Senator Kerry. Lisa, do you want to lead off? 



Ms. Speer. I would be happy to. 



Senator Kerry. Thanks for coming in. If you all could summarize 

 in 5 minutes or so, that would be helpful, and then we will put 

 your full statements in the record. That will give us some time to 

 ask questions. 



STATEMENT OF LISA SPEER, SENIOR POLICY ANALYST, 

 NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL 



Ms. Speer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



My name is Lisa Speer. I am senior policy analyst with the Natu- 

 ral Resources Defense Council. 



Senator Kerry. Can you pull the microphone closer and speak 

 up? 



Ms. Speer. Sure. 



My testimony today is on behalf of Greenpeace, the World Wild- 

 life Fund, and the National Audubon Society. 



Mr. Chairman, as you so eloquently summarized in your opening 

 remarks, the world is facing a global fisheries crisis of unprece- 

 dented proportions. The UNFAO now reports that in one-third of 

 the world's major marine fishing areas the catch has declined by 

 20 percent or more. And FAO warned in April that disastrous so- 

 cial and economic consequences await the entire industry unless 

 better national and international fishing controls are imposed. 



The United Nations conference is a major opportunity to begin 

 to get control over what is happening to fisheries worldwide. Al- 

 though the conference only deals with species that occur beyond 



