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are positioned is much greater on that side. And I think equal bal- 

 ance should be given rather than putting all the chips into a fleet 

 modernization program. 



The areas such as bioremediation you mentioned, we did some 

 work in that area. It is very, very difficult to get through the agen- 

 cies. There is no one to really foster the business community's at- 

 tempts to try to get some of these products done. 



I can only hope that these issues be allotted more time for fur- 

 ther study, and that the budget in marine biotechnology is in- 

 creased significantly because we are exporting jobs and we are los- 

 ing jobs. Foreign companies and foreign businesses are putting a 

 lot, much, much more money into it than we are in the United 

 States, and I think they will reap the benefits of this. 



Senator Stevens. Thank you very much. 



I had lunch with Dr. Costelli. And it is very interesting the work 

 he is doing at the Framingham Heart Institutes. I am sure you 

 must know him up that way. 



Dr. Burris, I know Woods Hole is involved deeply into the exam- 

 ination of some of the problems related to the disposal of nuclear 

 waste at sea. Were you part of that group that had the meeting 

 just about a week ago and issued a white paper on that subject? 



Dr. Burris. No, I was not, sir. 



To make a distinction, there is an Oceanographic Institution and 

 a Marine Biological Laboratory. And I believe that was at the 

 Oceanographic Institution, which is up the street from me. 



Senator Stevens. All right. 



I see our colleague, Senator Pell. 



Senator, have you come to present a paper or to ask questions, 

 may I inquire? 



Senator Pell. To present remarks on the Sea Grant Program. 



Senator Stevens. Would you like to join me at the table here 

 and do that? I do not know whether the chairman is going to be 

 back, Senator Kerry, to ask questions of this panel. But why do you 

 not sit at the table. If you gentlemen would just allow us to have 

 Senator Pell make his presentation, I will get back to you with 

 some questions. 



Is that all right with you? 



Please, Senator Pell. 



STATEMENT OF HON. CLAIBORNE PELL, U.S. SENATOR FROM 



RHODE ISLAND 



Senator Pell. Thank you very, very much, indeed, for affording 

 me this opportunity. And I am grateful to the Commerce Commit- 

 tee for the interest they have shown in the Sea Grant College Pro- 

 gram over the many years. 



I am delighted to be with you this morning to speak in support 

 of legislation, which I hope to join in introducing soon in the Sen- 

 ate, which will promote marine biotechnology through the National 

 Sea Grant College Program. 



I want to commend you, Senator Kerry, for your leadership in 

 holding these hearings. I look forward to working with you and 

 Senator Hollings to maintain U.S. leadership in this important 

 field. 



