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Senator Kerry. Are they programmed to take a hit because their 

 outlays are running behind or there are surpluses there, or are 

 they taking a hit operationally? 



Mr. Moxam. I am not sure why they would be, Mr. Chairman. 

 But we could get back, certainly, to you for the record on that one, 

 sir. 



[The information referred to follows:] 



Transfer of Funds From NIST and EDA to NOAA 



A total of $2.0 million will be transferred from the NIST construction of research 

 facilities appropriation to NOAA. These funds are not needed by NIST in FY 1993 

 since their use is restricted solely to the actual construction of facilities on the NIST 

 campuses in Gaithersburg, MD, and Boulder, CO. No construction is planned at 

 these two sites in 1993; therefore, there will be no negative programmatic impact 

 on NIST's programs in 1993. 



A total of $4,012 billion will be transferred from EDA's Economic Development 

 Assistance Program to NOAA. After the transfer, EDA will have almost $404 mil- 

 lion available for economic assistance development grants in 1993. 



In both of these cases the Secretary of Commerce determined that continued oper- 

 ation of the National Weather Service was a higher priority than using the funds 

 for the purposes that they were originally appropriated for. 



Congress was informed of these transfers in a July 6, 1993, letter to the appro- 

 priate committee chairmen and ranking minority members from the Department of 

 Commerce Acting Chief Financial Officer and Assistant Secretary for Administra- 

 tion pursuant to the guidelines established in the FY 1993 Department of Com- 

 merce Appropriations Act (Public Law 102-395) and the National Oceanic and At- 

 mospheric Administration Authorization Act of 1992 (Public Law 102-567). 



Senator Kerry. I think it would be helpful just to have an under- 

 standing of what is going to be impacted as a consequence and 

 what you are thinking about. 



Now, with respect to the shortfalls, how did they come about? 



Mr. Moxam. I will give you an example in the National Weather 

 Service. In fiscal year 1993 we had requested a total increase, in- 

 cluding adjustments to base, of approximately $60 million, and that 

 was to maintain the operations of the Weather Service. In the ap- 

 propriations process, we received $45 million, so there is a gap 

 right there. Now, what I can say is that in the fiscal year 1994 

 budget the $20.8 million that we are asking for in NWS operations 

 would alleviate that problem and we would have full operation in 

 fiscal year 1994. That is the best example right there, Mr. Chair- 

 man. 



Senator Kerry. Well, turning our attention to the issue raised by 

 this investment package, where does that leave us with respect to 

 possible supplementary requests or reprogramming? 



Dr. Baker. Well, the so-called investment package includes two 

 parts of our budget. One is for Weather Service modernization and 

 the other is the FCCSET programs on climate and global change 

 and high performance computing and communications. As I under- 

 stand it, that amounts to about $243 million above the caps. If, in 

 fact, that money was not available we would have to go back and 

 look at our overall priorities in our budget to see how we would be 

 able to find those funds. We need those funds in order to maintain 

 the Weather Service and do our other research. 



Senator Kerry. I understand that, but as you break it down, you 

 have got your next generation weather radars at $40 million, you 

 have got weather office construction at $14 million. What office 



