tration going to say to Bonneville that you demand this, or do we 

 have to say no, we are not going to shift it there? 



My second concern is the National Coastal Resources Research 

 and Development Institute which NOAA says it is a good program 

 but it is no longer in its mission. It does not seem to be in any- 

 body's mission, not that I can find in the Department of Commerce 

 anyplace. And I understand poor old Leon Panetta's problems and 

 I understand budget limitations. He probably says to you, Dr. 

 Baker, "I am sorry, you cannot have all the money you want. You 

 figure it out how to get it down. Do not come back to me with more 

 requests." 



If NCRI is a good mission and it should be funded, but NOAA 

 is not going to fund it and the Department of Commerce is appar- 

 ently not going to fund it, who is going to fund it? What are your 

 recommendations? Where do we get the funding? 



If you could get answers for me Dr. Baker, I would appreciate it. 

 And Mr. Chairman, I am going to go off to the Finance Committee 

 now, and I appreciate your letting me make this statement. 



Senator Kerry. Thank you very much. Senator Pack wood. 



Senator Stevens, do you have an opening statement? 



Senator Stevens. No, Mr. Chairman, I would prefer to listen to 

 my good friend, my southern neighbor from Washington and then 

 ask some questions afterward. I have no statement. 



Senator Kerry. Thank you very much. Senator Stevens. 



Dr. Baker, thank you for being with us. We look forward to your 

 testimony. 



STATEMENT OF HON. JAMES D. BAKER, UNDER SECRETARY 

 OF COMMERCE FOR OCEANS AND ATMOSPHERE, NATIONAL 

 OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION 



Dr. Baker. Senator Kerry, thank you very much for the oppor- 

 tunity to talk to your committee. 



I am very cognizant of the fact that one of the reasons we have 

 a NOAA here today is because of this committee. Your support of 

 NOAA over the years has been vital to the existence of the agency 

 and to the achievement of its mission, and I want you to know that 

 we recognize that, and it is a very important thing for us. 



I am very pleased to appear before you todav as we build our au- 

 thorization plan for the 1995 budget. Our budget right now is 

 about $1.9 billion, and we have about 15,000 employees nation- 

 wide. 



I would also like to thank you. Senator Kerry, and you, Senator 

 Stevens, for your legislation to reauthorize the Magnuson Act, 

 which is another very important driving force for our activities. 



As you mentioned. Senator Kerry, we have restructured NOAA's 

 budget from the previous organization-based structure to a struc- 

 ture that mirrors our strategic plan. This structure allows us for 

 the first time to directly link NOAA's programs with agencywide 

 budgets, goals, and objectives. You can find a more detailed outline 

 of the strategic plan in my written testimony. 



As far as environmental stewardship is concerned, our mission 

 includes promoting global environmental stewardship in order to 

 conserve and wisely manage the Nation's marine and coastal re- 

 sources, and I would also like to thank you for your leadership on 



