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scofflaws, and profligates of our natural resources. And to the con- 

 trary, many Maine fishermen are our town selectmen, little league 

 coacnes, planning board members, and so on. 



Addressing the Magnuson issues, please remember that fisheiy 

 management is an inexact art affecting an inexact science. Each 

 area needs to understand what it wants from the fisheries. Do they 

 want the greatest employment? The highest efficiency, whatever ef- 

 ficiency means? Zero discards? Seeing the means necessary to 

 achieve these ends may prove unjustifiably costly. 



To summarize, I'd like to remember why Magnuson was created. 

 It's achieved its objective of Americanizing the fisheries. Fish are 

 not trees, they don't grow on observable acres. Fisherman have 

 about the same percentage of scofflaws as any other segment of so- 

 ciety, and they don't deserve the bad rap now any more than they 

 deserved the romantic pap of a generation ago. They do deserve 

 honest, earnest representation on the councils. They deserve goals 

 that are attainable over a term long enough to assure the contin- 

 ued existence of many of the individuals and coastal communities 

 who depend on them. 



Thank you. 



Senator Kerry. Thank you. Chip. 



STATEMENT OF CHARLES H. COLLINS, WINSLOW 

 MANAGEMENT CO. 



Mr. Collins. Thank you. Senator. 



Let me summarize my comments as briefly as I can. 



First and foremost, my sense was that the very well-intentioned, 

 the goal of the Federal relief package was to perhaps put in place 

 a system that would minimize the pain, the very legitimate and 

 very dire pain in some cases of those people who are most affected 

 by the current fisheries crisis, while putting in place a series of 

 steps and procedures that would enable us to address some of the 

 fundamental problems that are facing the fishery. 



The history of this fishery, as I see it, is one of a real failure to 

 address those fundamental systemic problems. We have treated the 

 systems without really focusing on the disease time and time 

 again. 



My concern right now is that the current Federal relief package 

 as it is currently constituted runs the risk of repeating that historic 

 problem. We have put in place a series of programs right now that 

 in the process of trying to minimize the pain is really going to be 

 shifling effort, fishing effort on to other fisheries that may or may 

 not be able to sustain that effort. 



In that process, I think we are going to be potentially just delay- 

 ing the inevitable without really solving the problems that created 

 the crisis that we're in in the first place. 



Let me just echo and underscore several comments that were 

 made earlier. 



First and foremost, the bureaucratic impediments right now to 

 getting funding to those issues that are in need are very, very 

 great. Both Mr. Griffith and Doctor Hogan commented on the fun- 

 damental lack of data that we have right now on the overall impact 

 of this fishery. That is a critical problem. A large group of individ- 

 uals attempted to structure a process that would have answered 



