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committee. We're trying to work out the differences. We will, I'm 

 confident, have a bill coming out of Congress that will do that. 



Captain Bruno. Thank you very much. 



Senator Kerry. Let me just say to you, because I know you are 

 concerned about it, I want you to understand, you and I talked be- 

 fore the meeting and I want you to know, I will be on the phone 

 today when I leave this meeting to Ambassador Blanchard in Can- 

 ada. I have talked, as I told you, last night to the Under Secretary 

 of State, and we are going to press this issue as hard as we can. 

 And I want you to understand that I think this is an absolutely in- 

 tolerable, unacceptable situation. It is a violation not just of the 

 spirit of our relationship, but it is a violation of the law, as far as 

 I am concerned, and those boats ought to be released. 



I talked to the State Department last night. You will not have 

 to pay for that. We will put up the money for any bonding. We will 

 put up the money for any bonding on the people. 



But the more important issue is, I think, getting those boats re- 

 leased, getting the catch paid for, and making sure that those fish- 

 ermen and you are not out of pocket as a consequence of this. 



I think this atrocious behavior by our friends in Canada. Hope- 

 fully we can get this back on an even keel. OK? 



Captain Bruno. Thank you very much, sir. 



Senator Kerry. Folks 



Captain Bruno. I want to publicly state to you and your staff I 

 appreciate all your efforts and your hard work, and thank you 

 again. 



Senator Kerry. Thank you very much. 



Folks, before we wrap this up, I just want to make sure that no- 

 body has any, you know, sort of a burning comment that you feel 

 you have really got to make, or somehow you have not been lis- 

 tened to. I do not want anybody to leave here feeling you were cut 

 off or cut out. 



Yes, sir. 



Mr. BEffiEMAN. Nelson Beideman. I'm from Blue Water Fisher- 

 men's Association. 



I just wanted to reiterate a little bit on what Capt. Mark 

 Simonitsch had to say on reproduction and on the research end of 

 things. 



A lot of research has gone into allocation-type issues. A lot of re- 

 search goes into screwing down commercial fishermen, but there's 

 nothing on the other end of it. We have the capabilities of getting 

 a sperm and an egg together. We could probably obtain a better re- 

 cruitment out of observers or scientists aboard a boat fishing in the 

 spawning area, under controlled conditions, putting a sperm and 

 egg together, or storing it, bringing it in for controlled rearing and 

 ranching release, and we're not putting anything into that type of 

 research. 



Senator Kerry. You are absolutely correct, and I think that is 

 a very good comment. It was made earlier, I think either by Cap- 

 tains Simonitsch or Mirarchi that there is a huge amount you could 

 do. I have been advocating it for several years. We have trouble 

 trying to get the money. I am absolutely certain we could do an 

 enormous amount to hasten the restoration of these fisheries with, 

 frankly, a very small amount of effort. 



