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Mr. Lee. That is partially correct. The importation is allowed 

 based on the requirements having been met. We do the testing, we 

 release those logs to a designated mill for processing. The condi- 

 tions that have been stated for the release of those logs is to dis- 

 pose of the waste, the sawdust, or the shavings or whatever comes 

 off in the milling process, is taken care of, so if there were any po- 

 tential problems associated with that importation, those safeguards 

 together would take care of any potential problem. 



So it is not, the release is not dependent entirely on that lab 

 analysis in the cases that have occurred. 



Mr. VOLKMER. Well, the release precedes the analysis being done; 

 correct? 



Mr. Lee. The release does precede the analysis being completed. 



Mr. VOLKMER. Right. And as far as it could happen that those 

 logs could be all sawed up and everything else before the lab analy- 

 sis is completed. 



Mr. Lee. If those logs that would have arrived came from a coun- 

 try in which we had not done a risk assessment, and we suspected 

 given the information about the pest and diseases in that country 

 of origin, we would very likely hold those logs until the analysis 

 had been completed. 



Mr. VOLKMER. I am curious to see what the gentleman from Or- 

 egon is going to ask you about, but I would like to add, unless — 

 would the gentleman from Oregon yield to me just a minute? I 

 want to ask the gentleman from Oregon a question. 



Mr. DeFazio. Yes, certainly. 



Mr. VOLKMER. I would like to ask the gentleman, do you have 

 the data information from APHIS on the 12 shipments that have 

 come in from Chile and New Zealand as to the results of the test- 

 ing protocols? 



Mr. DeFazio. I have not seen the results. I do know, if the gen- 

 tleman would further yield, that Mr. Lee was incorrect. There was 

 a problem with at least one shipment in Coos Bay where there 

 were cedar logs in the shipment which were quarantined and im- 

 pounded because they were not — there was no regimen for those 

 logs. So it has not been a faultless process even as proposed. 



Mr. Lee. That is exactly right, sir. But those were not allowed 

 under the interim rules. So they would have been impounded re- 

 gardless of whether there were interim rules or not. 



Mr. VOLKMER. Mr. Lee, I would reclaim my time and ask you to 

 furnish to the committee, and to me specifically, the results of all 

 the shipments, the testing protocol on all the shipments received 

 so far from Chile and New Zealand. 



Mr. Lee. We shall do that. 



Mr. VOLKMER. Thank you. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Rose. Thank you. 



[The information appears at the conclusion of the hearing.] 



Mr, Rose. Other questions? Comments? Mr. DeFazio. 



Mr. DeFazio. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Ms. Lorimer, have we identified all possible pests, diseases, 

 pathogens in Chile and New Zealand? 



Ms. Lorimer. If I could just speak to the Chilean pest risk as- 

 sessment just as an example, I would say that it represents the 



