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very considerate of what you have heard here today, as I know you 

 will. 



Thank you all very much. 



Mr. Rains. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Rose. I would invite the second panel to come up at this 

 time. Dr. John Lattin, Dr. Cobb, Dr. Belsky, Mr. Russell, and I 

 would like to ask — where is Scott Berg? You come on up to the — 

 Scott, come on and join this panel so we can all — we are running 

 out of time here. 



I will say to Mr. DeFazio, I think you have emphasized one very 

 important piece of a problem that covers the whole country and it 

 is how we approach the question of dealing with foreign pests gen- 

 erally, and you are concerned, as I would be concerned, that the tilt 

 might be made away from the environment for some economic con- 

 sideration to help the importer of the log who does not want to 

 have any added expenses. But to the logs coming in, I think you 

 are very correct in insisting that the first concern be what happens 

 to our environment and I salute you for that. 



Dr. Lattin, Professor of Entomology, Department of Entomology, 

 Oregon State University. 



STATEMENTS OF JOHN D. LATTIN, PROFESSOR OF ENTO- 

 MOLOGY, DEPARTMENT OF ENTOMOLOGY, OREGON STATE 

 UNIVERSITY; FIELDS W. COBB, JR., PROFESSOR EMERITUS, 

 FOREST PATHOLOGY, UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT 

 BERKELEY; JOY BELSKY, STAFF ECOLOGIST, OREGON NATU- 

 RAL RESOURCES COUNCIL; KEN RUSSELL, FOREST PATHOL- 

 OGIST AND MANAGER OF FOREST HEALTH, WASHINGTON 

 STATE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES 



Mr. Lattin. Thank you. 



Mr. Rose. We are going to put all your statements in the record, 

 so if you want to have lunch today, you will summarize your state- 

 ments. 



Mr. Lattin. I brought my own, Mr. Chairman. 



Much of what I have prepared to say has already been said so 

 I will sort of hit the high spots. 



Mr. Rose. That will be great. 



Mr. Lattin. Since Coos Bay, Oregon, has been talked about to 

 some considerable extend, I would like to enter the following for 

 the record. Of the 9 shipments, I can only tell you about the most 

 recent that came in 4 or 5 weeks ago, that shipment contained 

 26,000 logs. 



I talked to the APHIS inspector to find out how this was done 

 and how they took the samples as has been described. Samples 

 were sent off. I asked the same question. How long before you get 

 the results? Up to three months, depending on what the organism 

 is, was the answer. 



So I made a quick calculation, if you had only one shipment a 

 day, you could bring in one and a half million logs before you got 

 the results of the first shipment. That bothered me, I will not deny. 



Secondly, it was mentioned that there were cedar logs, 110 logs — 

 they grow other trees, other exotic trees in New Zealand than the 

 ones that have been mentioned today, about 25 or 30 species of 

 conifers, mostly North American, including Western red cedar. 



