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had been treated with such compounds, and as I mentioned, DEQ 

 said you cannot burn and release those chemicals into the air. 



Fumigation. What has not been said has to do with methyl bro- 

 mide, and that is that this is a compound that is well-known for 

 eroding the ozone layer and is about to be outlawed within a few 

 years. It seems questionable, let's say, to build a program of mitiga- 

 tion based on a compound that will not be here probably within a 

 few years. 



And finally the heat treatment, I still would echo the question 

 that Congressman DeFazio raised. There was a science panel put 

 together by the Forest Service in Sacramento in 1992 to address 

 the question, the mitigation procedures, and develop proper proto- 

 cols, including the heat treatment. 



And as a member of that science team, there was no doubt in my 

 mind that these people — people with a lot of experience — were 

 thinking in terms of how these regulations might be utilized for 

 other similar types of activities. It was not just for Siberia. The 

 dropping by 20 degrees centigrade of the heat treatment require- 

 ments recommended by the team from 71 degrees for 75 minutes, 

 to 56 degrees for 30 minutes by these present proposed regulation 

 is inexplicable. I cannot imagine how they thought that would help. 



Mr. Rose. Go ahead. 



Mr. Lattin. And finally the question of the point of origin. 



These Western red cedar logs from New Zealand were to have 

 been heat-treated in New Zealand. I can see no reason at all why 

 properly applied heat treatment at the point of origin of the logs 

 could not be done. It is noncontaminating and the like — this is the 

 area where there should be developed an adequate information 

 base prepared and used at the point of origin. I cannot emphasize 

 the need for that strongly enough. 



Mr. Rose. Thank you. We are running out of time here. The next 

 witness is Fields W. Cobb, Jr. 



[The prepared statement of Mr. Lattin appears at the conclusion 

 of the hearing.] 



Mr. Rose. Professor Emeritus, Forest Pathology, University of 

 California at Berkeley in Sagle, Idaho? 



Mr. Cobb. Yes, I moved to Sagle about a year ago. 



STATEMENT OF FIELDS W. COBB, JR. 



Mr. Cobb. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate very much the oppor- 

 tunity to address you today. It is only going to be for a moment 

 or two. Both Jack and I are programmed to give 50 minute lec- 

 tures, and it is difficult for both of us to do a Httle bit less. 



I am going to disregard my prepared comments. They are going 

 to be in the record. 



Mr. Rose. They will be a part of the record. 



Mr. Cobb. And I hope that you all read it, but I would like to 

 say first that I support everything that Congressman DeFazio has 

 said. He has hit the nail on the head many times in his comments. 



Also, I support the comments of Jack Lattin, my friend and col- 

 league. I also was involved in some of those same activities that 

 he was, and I am very distressed that both his comments and mine 

 were not used to prepare the document but were instead attached 



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