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And having worked at EPA for several years in a previous life, 

 the whole NEPA compliance process is based on the proposition 

 that if you have scientists there developing the regulations with 

 public input, you will come out with a good result in the end. And 

 I trust that that process was done in a professional way. 



A major issue for us has been seeking a general permit for do- 

 mestic species imported from Canada and Mexico. We think there 

 is ample justification for the general permit that is proposed in the 

 rule for Canada and Mexico, our neighboring countries, and if those 

 bugs that were in those countries have not arrived yet, they prob- 

 ably will not. 



Forest industry agrees with 



Mr. Rose. Where are you — ^what page are you on? 



Mr. Berg. Excuse me, I am on point number three now, forest 

 industry agrees with the objectives of universal requirements fol- 

 lowed by specific procedures 



Mr. Rose. Let me ask you something. Most of your — a good part 

 of your members make paper. 



Mr. Berg. That is correct, sir. 



Mr. Rose. News print, probably. And they bring in Canadian 

 trees to do that; is that right? 



Mr. Berg. That is correct. 



Mr. Rose. And you are concerned about having a fairly import- 

 friendly way to bring those logs in? 



Mr. Berg. Most definitely, given the long history of importing 

 wood from Canada. 



Mr. Rose. And is it reasonable to assume that somebody might 

 want to transship some logs through Canada to come to you, or 

 that would remove the price differential? 



Mr. Berg. The general permit requires that the importer certify 

 that the wood came from that neighboring State, not transported 

 from some other country through that province to get to this coun- 

 try. 



Mr. Rose. Yes, I know about certifications and will talk to you 

 about imported tobacco someday when you have an afternoon. But 

 that is probably not a problem in your industry insofar as that is 

 concerned. 



Mr. Berg. It has not been and we do not anticipate it to be a 

 problem. 



Mr. Rose. Okay. Now, how much — what is the worth of the 

 paper in the average Washington Post or the average New York 

 Times or the average Wall Street Journal? 



Mr. Berg. I am not sure I can answer that question, Mr. Chair- 

 man. But I would be pleased to get back with you with the infor- 

 mation. 



Mr. Rose. You have a horseback guess, now. I am sure you know 

 how much — I mean 



Mr. Berg. I would say it would have to represent 20, 30 percent 

 of the cost of the paper. 



Mr. Rose. Well, that is not- 



Mr. Berg. Some papers cost — the Sunday edition is 



Mr. Rose. I know the Sunday edition is bigger, but you know the 

 Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post are all about the 

 same size during the week. Is that a nickel's worth of paper, a pen- 



