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ny's worth of paper, six mill's worth of paper? What are we talking 

 about? 



Mr. Berg. Any response would be a guess on my part, Mr. Chair- 

 man. I would say probably a nickel to a dime of the price. Let me 

 get back with you on that in specific. 



Mr. Rose. And those contracts would be with different mem- 

 bers — the papers would make contracts with different mills in your 

 association for supplying them with their newsprint, would they 

 not? 



Mr. Berg. That is correct. 



Mr. Rose. And you would be quite sure that those three news- 

 papers that I have named would not want to take any risk with 

 respect to importing any pathogen that would harm America's for- 

 ests, aren't you? 



Mr. Berg. I would not think they would be interested in import- 

 ing 



Mr. Rose. Go ahead and finish your statement. 



Mr. Berg. I am pretty close to the end. In fact, the last issue we 

 had there, number three, was just to make the point that the regu- 

 lations have some flexibility in them. We appreciate that flexibility 

 that would allow importers that did not meet the universal require- 

 ment or the proposal for New Zealand and Chile to customize some 

 procedures that would be appropriate for them. 



Appreciate this opportunity to provide the comments from the 

 American Forest and Paper Association to the subcommittee. We 

 are looking forward to working with the agency and this sub- 

 committee to resolve any of the issues that have been brought up 

 here today, and would be glad to answer any questions. 



Mr. Rose. Thank you, sir. 



[The prepared statement of Mr. Berg appears at the conclusion 

 of the hearing.] 



Mr. Rose. I am not picking on you. I have a great understanding 

 of your industry because of my situation in my district with the 

 paper mill close by. But I am saying with the concern that has de- 

 veloped in the minds of the American people with respect to using 

 recycled paper, for example, I would think that the American peo- 

 ple would be just as concerned with the use of recycled paper with 

 the saving of our trees, with the ecologically friendly products that 

 are brought into this country, and that they would want a safe pro- 

 tocol for that, and you basically agree with that. You are question- 

 ing the extent to which your industry might be forced to go as re- 

 spect to, say, Canada or Mexico. 



Mr. Berg. That has been our main concern. 



Mr. Rose. So you would be upset if they required heat treatment 

 for all of the logs that you brought here for pulp purposes? 



Mr. Berg. Right. We appreciate the additional protection de- 

 pending on the risk. We think risk assessment is the way to go in 

 this situation. 



Mr. Rose. I think that is a very responsible position. 



Mr. DeFazio, any questions? 



Mr. DeFazio. Yes, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Berg, since you heard the extensive discussion on the heat 

 treatment, I understand your concern particularly about certain de- 

 veloping nations, but certainly we can argue that New Zealand is 



