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today, but I would suggest that this problem will certainly come 

 up, as it has every time you have taken up the Magnuson Act, and 

 undoubtedly we have talked a number of times to our representa- 

 tives in the State of Washington about this issue. I think this prob- 

 lem could be alleviated in large part by taking the politics, if that 

 is possible, out of the council process, and by doing this within the 

 Magnuson Act. If we took a look at the conflict of interest, there 

 have been a number of bias charges against individual council 

 members, all of the councils, not just the ones that are relative to 

 us here. I think if we looked at our suggestions, perhaps that 

 would solve some of this conflict problem with regard to the rep- 

 resentation issue. 



Finally, Mr. Chairman, I would just say before Mr. Morgan com- 

 ments, that we strongly support CDQ programs with our Bristol 

 Bay partners. We think the program is working, should be given 

 a life to continue beyond its sunset in 1995. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



The Chairman. Thank you very, very much. 



Mr. Wolfe. Yes, sir. 



The Chairman. And you work right here in 



Mr. Wolfe. We are operating out of Seattle. Our vessels operate 

 all over the world. They are operating in Russia and in the North 

 Pacific. We have a small employment office here with our Bristol 

 Bay partner and we will be expanding to this part of the world, we 

 contemplate, in the very near future. 



The Chairman. Do you believe in a fee? 



Mr. Wolfe. Not necessarily. There are many different — I agree 

 with you, I think there are too many fees. 



The Chairman. I would like to see the fee that you would write 

 to put on Oceantrawl. 



Mr. Wolfe. I do not think you would see a fee that I would 

 write. I would probably give you arguments to maybe not support 

 that, but we could do that for the record also, if you would like. 



The Chairman. No, I would like to get the fee, but I want to be 

 reasonable in doing it because I think we need it, from what you 

 are saying. We need some kind of expanded research, expanded en- 

 forcement, and the question is how you pay for it. I mean, you folks 

 are asking for it, and I think the overwhelming evidence is of the 

 need. But let us hear from Mr. Morgan. Very good, Mr. Morgan. 



STATEMENT OF ROBERT MORGAN, DIRECTOR AND PAST 

 PRESIDENT, OCEANTRAWL, INC. 



Mr. Morgan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My name is Bob Mor- 

 gan. I am the retired president of Oceantrawl and currently serve 

 as the director of that organization. I have been in the fishery in 

 Alaska since 1941, except for a couple of years in the early 1940's, 

 then I was probably in some of the places you were. 



The Chairman. Yes. 



Mr. Morgan. We strongly support the matter of conservation, as 

 Mr. Angasan, Mr. Nielsen, Mr. Anderson, Mr. Jemewouk, and Mr. 

 Naneng. Conservation is absolutely paramount to our success, so 

 we have no difference of opinion there. 



We are fortunate in having as our partner the Bristol Bay Eco- 

 nomic Development Corp. We expect that this relationship will last 



