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Mr. Synar. The subcommittee was informed, Mr. Campbell, that 

 in early 1984, Philip Morris or Berkeley closed down the research 

 laboratory of Dr. DeNoble and his colleagues and the employees 

 were told to find other jobs. Is that true? 



Mr. Campbell. That's correct. 



Mr. Synar. Is it true that Philip Morris took that action because 

 of the adverse research findings that were being found by the lab- 

 oratory? 



Mr. Campbell. No. 



Mr. Synar. Does Philip Morris have copies of any of Dr. 

 DeNoble's studies, reports, notes or any other documents pertain- 

 ing to work he performed or any other documents pertaining to his 

 animal research? 



Mr. Campbell. I would think that we do, sir. 



Mr. Synar. Will you provide those documents to the subcommit- 

 tee and for the record? 



Mr. Campbell. I see no problem. 



Mr. Synar. The subcommittee contacted Dr. DeNoble, Mr. Camp- 

 bell, to ask his version of the events and Dr. DeNoble informed this 

 subcommittee that he would be unable to talk to us because it may 

 be subject to a confidentiality agreement that he has with your 

 company, Philip Morris. Therefore, it would bar the testimony of 

 Dr. DeNoble because of that agreement. 



Mr. Campbell, will you release Dr. DeNoble from his confiden- 

 tiality agreement so that he can appear voluntarily before this sub- 

 committee to tell us what really happened? 



Mr. Campbell. I don't know of the confidentiality agreement. So 

 I'd have to have an investigation, but then I will answer. 



Mr. Synar. Will you release Dr. DeNoble from any contractual 

 arrangements that would allow him to voluntarily testify before 

 this subcommittee? 



Mr. Campbell. Dr. DeNoble is quite on record in a 



Mr. Synar. Yes or no? Will you allow Dr. DeNoble to come for- 

 ward? 



Mr. Campbell. I see no problem and our people will discuss it 

 with you. 



Mr. Synar. No. That's not the question. Mr. Campbell, Dr. 

 DeNoble will voluntarily appear if he can get through the agree- 

 ment that he has with your company. Will you release him from 

 that agreement? 



Mr. Campbell. Can I check with my counsel at this time? 



Mr. Synar. I just want to know. You're the chairman of the 

 board. 



Mr. Campbell. No, I'm not, sir. I'm just the president, but 



Mr. Waxman. Mr. Synar, let's give him a minute. 



Mr. Synar. All right. 



Mr. Campbell. We'll do it, sure. 



Mr. Synar. Thank you. Mr. Johnston, do you currently have ani- 

 mal research going on in your laboratory? 



Mr. James Johnston. I believe we do, yes. 



Mr. Synar. Will you make available to the subcommittee all doc- 

 uments pertaining to that animal research that you are presently 

 and have in the past conducted? 



